Ok Gavin

Bump.

Drew, you can control a great deal of how others respond to you by the manner in which you respond yourself.

It WOULD be a shame to lock this thread but before that's done, I'll just start deleting posts. So anymore BS from anyone on this thread, and every last bit of the time it took to write the posts will have all been for naught, with the push of one little button.

Think twice guys. Play nice.


-John

Ok to be fair, I actually sat and read through an hour of text so I felt abit more informed from all points of view. I will say this 37 years in the arts, background in law enforcement, military (combat)and several parallel occupations, I have to say alot of this conversation is silly and juvenile. first off its a conversation about clinch in a SD situation and I have heard more about shredders than an infomercial on a slicer dicer. Ok we get it it shreds! Now that being said noone will deny sticking your fingers in a guys eyes, or throat or ripping his face apart will not be an effective weapon in a SD situation, I mean I have effectively used shredding techniques for years. Ive used many unorthodox techniques and tactics including sticking my finger in a guys rectum to dislodge his 330+ lb frame off me and give me the upper hand. (It worked ) a little soap and I was right as rain however noone and I mean noone can say any technique will guarantee win against anyone. The reason is a conflict is extremely complex with far too many variables to ensure absolute certainty on one course of action or distance etc. Too issue silly childish challenges of bravado has no place in a conversation of learning and debating within an arena of trained gentlemen of the Arts of honor.I advocate this drgn, when you become defensive and retalitory in your responses as you have all you've done is set a path to allow others to disprove your claims or skills. Let me say why, a competent skilled trained combatant has confidence in himself to such a degree that if another was to challenge his knowledge, skil or style, a typical response would be can you share with me why you feel the way you do about what Im saying. After hearing them out evaluate their answer if it helps you great if it doesnt great. Final response Well thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope I was at least able to shed a little light on some of the things that I feel will work for me. End of story. Anyway Drgn good luck with your training, and please no more shredders. Thanks