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#330040 - 03/22/07 11:29 AM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: Cord]
vgnpwr801 Offline
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Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 54
Well I know he doesnt do drugs. Straight edge supposedly.

Crazy drug people are a different situation. I would just try to escape and run away the whole time if possible.

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#330041 - 03/23/07 10:49 PM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: vgnpwr801]
Pierce Offline
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First, do not make yourself a target of his anger. A target does not have to display itself as a target, it just needs to look like one.

If you do get in a fight with him for some uncontrollable reason try break the bones in his hand (knuckles are best). A good way to do this is to block an incoming fist with your elbow by thrusting your elbow in front of your face and using your hand to help guide their fist into it Bone pain in the worst type of pain and no one can repeatedly punch with a hand broken that way (and lawsuits [if any] will be minimal)

That being said, this will not work at all on people high on cocaine (except maybe softening their fists a little). Get away. Really. But if you can not, go for K.O.s, if that is "impossible", then joint and ligament tears will stop anybody. If both of these are not options (as they may be difficult) and you still cannot get away then kill him, it is not worth your life.

Also, if you have great endurance and can avoid blows amazingly well, then you could actually just wait until he gets to tired to fight back, maybe help him out with a few trips. (Note: this is difficult, and unrealistic)
But possible

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#330042 - 04/09/07 07:50 PM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: Pierce]
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If you do get in a fight with him for some uncontrollable reason try break the bones in his hand (knuckles are best). A good way to do this is to block an incoming fist with your elbow by thrusting your elbow in front of your face and using your hand to help guide their fist into it Bone pain in the worst type of pain and no one can repeatedly punch with a hand broken that way...




Sorry, dude, but I have to disagree. A whole bunch of years back a friend of mine, a pretty good black belt in a Kyokushin derived style, was attacked by his G.F.'s brother. He later admitted to me that he lost it with the guy and continued to hit him long after he'd won the fight. It was only after he stopped, calmed down and tried to unclench his fist that he noticed he'd broken bones in his hand from beating upside the brother's noggin'. Ain't adrenaline dump a grand thing?
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#330043 - 04/09/07 08:00 PM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Garbage. Anybody can be KO'd or submitted. Stay away if you can, but don't buy into all the hyperbole.




Yep, it's just simple biology. Cut off the blood flow to the brain (or instigate the carotid sinus reflex) and any person will be unconscious in seconds. No one is exempt from biology.




that's how cops deal with people hopped up on PCP, which blocks the sensation of pain. Well, either that or they shoot them

I'd like to add my kudos to the OP for being smart enough to avoid fights, and for already knowing that rules 1 and 2 of a fight involve avoidance and running away. We need more people like you in the martial arts community.
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#330044 - 04/11/07 10:09 PM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: shadowkahn]
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Forget it! It probably wouldnt
even happen! Lots of guys have said they
were going to "Bash" me and it never ever
happened.

Your wasting your time even worrying about
it! Focus on the positives in your life not
the negatives.

And if he does happen to get in your
face and threaten you. "Hit him first
and keep going till he's had enough"


Nuff Said!
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#330045 - 04/20/07 04:18 AM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: MAGon]
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Lame on... Knuckles are the best to break??. If someone has good body mechanics and conditioned knuckles, how prey tell do you reliably break them? Control should be the key to any fight. If you can't control the fight from escalating to violence whether it be drugs or some other reason you should try to control the aggressor. Try hitting the person. If that doesn't work try again. If you get to the point where you think, "Actually that girl is right he is nuts" de-escalate the problem. Don't rely on submissions because they will not work on someone no drugs (sleeper hold will). Break their ankle (kick down 45degree from side approx 6inches up) or easier, break their knee (a straight knee will break with very little horizontal pressure- so use your own knee to straighten theirs and open palm the hell out of it)

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#330046 - 04/20/07 12:44 PM Re: "too crazy" to beat [Re: JimmySmith]
MAGon Offline
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Lame on... Knuckles are the best to break??. If someone has good body mechanics and conditioned knuckles, how prey tell do you reliably break them?





Errr... By hitting something hard at the wrong angle??? Nowhere in my post will you find the word "reliably". That word has no place in anything referring to fighting, where the only reliable thing is how unreliable absolutes are. However, in boxing, where you have trained, conditioned athletes wearing gloves to prevent the very thing, you see knuckles and other assorted bones of the hand broken, and not infrequently.



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Control should be the key to any fight. If you can't control the fight from escalating to violence whether it be drugs or some other reason you should try to control the aggressor.





Yeeeees... True, that's the way to go. The problem, though, is that getting there is oftentimes very messy.



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Try hitting the person. If that doesn't work try again. If you get to the point where you think, "Actually that girl is right he is nuts" de-escalate the problem.






'Scuse me, but there's an inconsistency here. If the person isn't rational, how can you reason with him once you've hit him? The problem with violence is that once the genie is out of the bottle, it's hard as hell, if not impossible to get 'im back in.
And what is the other person doing while all this hit, hit again, oops! let's reason thing is going on. I bet he/she has plans of his/her own. And they won't be friendly!



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Don't rely on submissions because they will not work on someone no drugs (sleeper hold will). Break their ankle (kick down 45degree from side approx 6inches up) or easier, break their knee (a straight knee will break with very little horizontal pressure- so use your own knee to straighten theirs and open palm the hell out of it)






I'm not a wrestler/grappler, so I don't have much to say on that account.
As to attacking the ankle or knee, yes it makes sense to attack the opponents foundation. If off balance or on the ground, it limits his ability to cause harm and enhances one's own to get away. That said, it's a mistake to go into a fight thinking that you'll just do this or that technique and the opponent will crumble. The human bod is, paradoxically, both very fragile and very tough. Sometimes a glass jaw will end a fight, sometimes a person that's been stabbed continues to fight and only notices what happened to him after it's all over.
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