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#329762 - 03/27/07 05:58 PM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: MattJ]
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Allow me to link the other poll to this one, as they are related:

http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/s...=0#Post15929602
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#329763 - 07/18/07 12:04 PM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: MattJ]
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#329764 - 07/18/07 01:04 PM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: MattJ]
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Thanks for the bump MattJ.

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Have you experienced violence?



Yes

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What age were you?



Well... if we include "The Bugsbunny Roadrunner Show" and "Tom and Jerry" probably very young. LOL. The first fight I was actually involved in I was 11. After winning that one I became the unofficial bully. Not that I picked on anyone just that no one messed with me after that until I was in high school. I was in a few fights in high school, then joined the Marine Corps, then worked in law enforcement, and also worked as a bouncer. Last fight was about 8 years ago if we are not talking sport fighting.

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Where did it happen?



Very long list including several other counties outside the U.S.

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Did you initiate it or was it unprovoked?



Only really ever started one fight and that was over a girl. uhg! I was young and dumb, although I did antagonize a few others that might not have escalated otherwise.

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Your gender?



Male

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Multiple attackers?



Sometimes.
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#329765 - 07/19/07 01:35 AM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: KJ63]
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Other than the many fights as a younger person, I've been able to avoid violence for the most part. Older age continues to make me wiser and be able to stay out of trouble ... but I've come very close a few times.

The one that did change my life was in 1991. I was the bank manager and four very bad dudes robbed our branch. I ended up with 35 stitches in the head from seven hits with a gun. I'm very lucky because 2 of those hits could have been kill blows not to mention the torture of having the gun barrel put in my eyeball, ear and mouth with the threatening words that I was going to die.

Much in my life changed after that day.


Edited by CatnPhx (07/19/07 01:37 AM)

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#329766 - 07/19/07 08:31 AM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: CatnPhx]
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That has got to be a mindF*<k. Glad you made it through.


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#329767 - 07/19/07 10:58 AM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: oldman]
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Oldman - it definitely was. If you remember the Burt Reynolds movie called Sharky's Machine, there was a scene at the end where the bad guy puts several bullets into the black cop. The black cop says that he "checked out" and went to another place to try and avoid the mind f*<k ... I did that too.

It did mess with me for a while. I was out of commission for 2 months ... both physically and mentally.

On a positive note, it forced me to rethink my priorities and I started dating one of my Tellers and we've been married for 15 years now and we have two girls.

Game, set, match to CatnPhx.

P.S. These were some bad dudes. Two are on death row for murdering other robbery victims, one is in prison for 40 years for a botched pizza robbery where the owner was shot several times but lived, and one is dead. Funny thing is the one that was found dead (in an alley) is the only one that was convicted for our bank robbery crime.

P.S.S. The FBI told me that my robbery was the most violence they've had in a robbery in Tucson, AZ ever ... so I have that going for me.

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#329768 - 07/19/07 11:23 AM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: CatnPhx]
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Cat -

Kudos to you for being able to move forward in a positive manner. Assaults like that are very hard to deal with. Two members of my family have been shot, one fatally. It affected me greatly, and I wasn't the one shot in either case.
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#329769 - 07/24/07 11:31 PM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: oldman]
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Folks,
Many times as individuals we look at our experiences in life as normal or average. It was not until my mid thirties that events conspired to cause me to reflect back over events in my life. Again , up until that point I had never really considered the impact the events had on my perceptions of the world. One other perspective that matt's survey doesnt address (sorry Matt) is the concept of "Vicarious Abuse" or Vicarious Violence. That is violence that we witnesss or are aware of and can do nothing about. Though it technically does not happen to us it can be tramatic and have lasting repercussions.





I have experienced both first hand and witnessed violence. Due to the things that I witnessed and experienced very early in life, I now have issues with post-traumatic stress disorder. At this point, I am not sure if martial arts is helping in that area. So far, the PTSD seems to be affecting my study of martial arts in a negative way: memory loss, trust issues, etc. As I progress with MA I hope it will be less of an issue.


Edited by kihap (07/24/07 11:35 PM)
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#329770 - 08/25/07 12:10 PM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: kihap]
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#329771 - 08/26/07 01:51 AM Re: Have you experienced violence? [Re: MattJ]
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Cat -

Kudos to you for being able to move forward in a positive manner. Assaults like that are very hard to deal with. Two members of my family have been shot, one fatally. It affected me greatly, and I wasn't the one shot in either case.




Wow, Matt, sorry to hear about the loss. It does affect your life but you have to move on don't you or it will haunt you forever.

An example of that? Some of the people that were in the bank that crappy day in 1991 took years and a lot of therapy to get over the trauma. I don't see those people anymore (other than the one I sleep next too each night) but I'm sure a couple of them who really freaked out still have some issues.

You just gotta move one.

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