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#329076 - 04/04/07 03:06 AM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: stormbringer]
ButterflyPalm Offline
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"By yon bonny banks and by yon bonny brae..."

A Scottish folk song -- "Loch Lomond" -- one of the large lakes in Scotland.

By yon (yonder) bonny (nice / beautiful) banks (river/lake bank) and by yon bonny brae (hill side/ slope)

May be Trevek or one of his puppets can sing for us.......
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#329077 - 04/11/07 04:47 PM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Not me, but someone almost as good...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtaL1kfI8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kWOBPa60oY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uZ-p-tN8Gs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqS3YHik4gY

So the story goes it is supposed to be a lament of a Jacobite (Scottish rebel in 1745) in the condemned cell. The high road is the road on earth and the low road is the road through Hades. Hence he'll take the low road and his love will take the high road. He'll be in Scotland before her but they'll never meet again (cos he's dead).
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#329078 - 04/11/07 05:17 PM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: trevek]
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you could also meditate on the fact that the reason he is acting in such a way is due to his own insecurities. This can help you forgive quicker.
I'm also gonna agree with a few others in that you should demonstrate your skills instead of hitting him. I've met people like this also, you tell them you're a MAist, and they have to prove to themselves that they can kick your ass.
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#329079 - 04/13/07 12:39 PM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: trevek]
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Quote:

The high road is the road on earth and the low road is the road through Hades




You have just cleared up a 45 year old mystery for me. I've always thought, since I first sang that song 45 years ago, that the 'high roads' were up in the mountains and the 'low roads' were down in the valley and it puzzled me why they couldn't have met.

Now I can 'lay my burden down by the riverside.....'
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#329080 - 04/13/07 12:52 PM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Well, I've heard it said that one who does not differentiate between the high and low roads (heaven/hell=same road) is enlightened. Perhaps it is our various 'demons' that obscure this.

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#329081 - 05/26/07 05:31 PM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: sntint]
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Dear Taison,

As far as what I observed on your part,you really are the more couragous one.True courage lies in the ability to control your anger,and without needlessly attack your opponent to prove your point.So really,he was the one that lost the fight.And him gossiping only proves that point.
You truelly are a hero.

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#329082 - 05/27/07 02:22 AM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: PrimeUniversa69]
Taison Offline
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Hero?

Prime, I'll be honest on one thing. I'm not a really nice person. All these things about self-control, is just a trait that was taught, but deep down, if I could, I'll smash a table through that thick skull of his, and then repeatedly stab his eyeballs with a pen. But then again, that's what sets us apart from primates. Self-control. The ability to reason what we do.

Prime, I'm flattered with your compliments, but don't think I'm a nice person. I just happen to be a good listener and people gave some really good advice before I physically attacked him just to 'prove my point'.

-Taison out

Ps. . I wish I opted for the stabbing of his eyeballs though.
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#329083 - 05/27/07 05:54 AM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: Taison]
jkdwarrior Offline
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How about i save your soul and come over and kick his butt for you? he he!

Have you tried a guided meditation? If you aren't able to do it on your own for now, let someone else take the reins. There are plenty of these on the internet where you can just follow the voice of the narrator. It works for me when I'm feeling too unsettled to meditate.

The truth is you won't change his mind unless you show him. Even if you do, it may still have no effect.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
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#329084 - 05/27/07 07:56 AM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: Taison]
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Quote:

...stab his eyeballs with a pen...




Ah...so that's why they called it a 'ballpoint pen...'
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#329085 - 06/10/07 01:19 PM Re: 'Inner Demons' [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Hmmm. I believe that your attempts to meditate and find peace have been hampered by your ego.

How about looking at this guy as a friend? He is really showing you your own weakenesses.

I have been confronted by similar situations before. For me, it was non-traditional martial artist who challenged the efficacy of traditional martial arts. The person made comments about how modern arts were more effective than tradition, and even made a comment to someone close to me about believing that they could beat me.

That plagued me for a minute. Each time I attempted to use a meditation to find peace, the thoughts of anger and indignation came back with redoubled force. So when meditating, I followed the thoughts to get to the root of my anger.

At the root of my anger was my own doubts about the efficacy of traditional martial arts. Traditional martial arts are very deep, and often shrouded in secrecy. While I understood how to fight (I have done some share of fighting before and after practicing traditional martial arts), I wasnt sure about my ability to apply traditional martial arts principles to achieve the goal. Ultimately, I had a "desire" to see my art as more effective than his. His statement challenged my beliefs, and that made me uncomfortable.

Consequently, I had to face my fear. I suggested to him that we train together. At worse, it could escalate into a street brawl, and I would have a chance to see whether or not my training was effective. If not, I would have to alter my training to be more effective based upon what did not work. At best, it turned into an amicable situation, and I gained a training partner, who through sparring I would find out my strengths and weakenesses. The guy has yet to take me up on the offer to train together, which was more disappointing to me than anything, because I love to train.

My suggestion is to face fears and confront him. Ask him why he thinks Martial arts are BS and ask him to train with you. You will learn about him, his strengths and weaknesses, and you will learn about yourself as well. He will at this point either put up or shut up.

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