Oh my god Jer_sm. . .
You actually consider jab, cross and overhand the same attack?!?!?!
Their only similarities is that they travel a straight line. That's it.
But then again, you're quite new to MA, and tend to group things together to make it all easier.
The shovel hook, is NOT 50% hook, 50% uppercut.
The shovel hook is a hook. The reason why? Simple.
It doesn't start from the waist like an uppercut. The angle which it travels is 45 degree towards the target, not 90 degree up like an uppercut. The other thing is that the forearm is 90 degree parallel to the bicep. Basically, the arm is like an inverted L shape when you punch.
So the shovel hook's mechanics is basically a hook, not an upper. It looks like an upper to the un-trained eye.
Quote: NO! ! Uppercut totally different mechanics. It's like saying straight leads and jabs are the same!!!
its all just different angled hooks using slightly different mechanicss with the same hooking action in mind.
Ok, sorry for being grumpy, but I've been absent from the board for a day, so my mouth can't shut today.