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#328032 - 03/13/07 01:17 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: Chen Zen]
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Sure about that?




Yes, very sure!

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#328033 - 03/13/07 01:34 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: ExCon]
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Don't know what you're talking since I have no idea what nomenclature means, sorry, my English isn't as good as it should be (try learning another language while taking hits to your brain and then study German afterwards).

Anyway, to most people lead straight and jab looks exactly the same and people think it's a jab, but there's a difference. The lead straight is a mix between the cross and the jab, done with the lead hand.

The jab, is a snappy punch done in conjunction with a step forward of the lead leg. It's very snappy like a whip, so the whiplash effect is the main power of it.

The straight lead, is a follow-through type of punch. It's done by stepping forward with the lead leg, rotation of the upper body to add momentum, and rotation of the hip to add power, and the punch is throw forward with power, which is aimed "through" the target. Usually this punch is done if you're really good with slipping by rotating your upper body and head.

Done with speed, it looks exactly like a jab to most people, even martial artists, that's why some boxing organizations didn't recognize it as a technique. Bruce Lee recognized it, many Cuban and Central American nation also does.

If you're good at slipping by rotating your upper body, this is a very good technique but some times people prefer to deliver body or head hooks from the slip, so figures.

-Taison out
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#328034 - 03/13/07 02:19 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: ExCon]
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nomenclature

a system or arrangement of names
a system to assign names to a given field
a body or system of names
the names or terms comprising a set or system


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There is no universally accepted nomenclature in the martial arts; in fact there isnít even a standard for boxing or wrestling.




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that's why some boxing organizations didn't recognize it as a technique.



You just proved my point, thanks.

Let us not argue about what terms we should be using, it will only get in the way of us discussing the techniques.

Using your terminology; I donít jab much but I do use a straight lead a lot.

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#328035 - 03/13/07 02:26 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: ExCon]
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Err.. no problem?

Seriously, I had no idea what you two were talking about. LoL!

Anyway, yeah, nomenclature. Thanks for the new word.

Back to jabbing.

Before, before I dropped jabbing, I used to jab the biceps a lot since my opponents used to have really good defense. Anyone else tried wearing down your opponents in the same way?

-Taison out
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#328036 - 03/13/07 06:32 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: ExCon]
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Iíd like to train with you too sometime John. Unfortunately Iím closer to Alaska (Western Canada, up north) than I am to North Carolina.





Damn, that ALWAYS Seems to be the case with folks! Just my luck I suppose.


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As for my training

Boxing is the base for my striking with some Muay Thai added in (Iím a former amateur kick boxer)

Wrestling and Jujitsu make up my grappling (Iím a former high school wrestler)

I was training for MMA but Iím really too old for that now (40+), so I just train lightly these days.





I'm soon to be 42 and still train. I'm not training to compete but I still love to spar and wrestle with anyone. Light training is really all that's required for the most part. You know, for timing, etc. I try and maintain my current brain cell count and don't see any reason to do otherwise.


-John

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#328037 - 03/13/07 06:48 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: JKogas]
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Quote:


Damn, that ALWAYS Seems to be the case with folks! Just my luck I suppose.




Iím still waiting for someone to build a transporter, beam me up Scotty.


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I'm soon to be 42 and still train. I'm not training to compete but I still love to spar and wrestle with anyone. Light training is really all that's required for the most part. You know, for timing, etc. I try and maintain my current brain cell count and don't see any reason to do otherwise.


-John




Yea the older I get the less I like being KO. I think Iíll join the rest of the geriatrics in the park for some Tia chi and then Iíll take a nap.

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#328038 - 03/13/07 07:43 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: Chen Zen]
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great stuff, i love the "lets go technical" articles. Keep it comming
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#328039 - 03/13/07 08:04 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: Legend of the Hungry Wolf]
ExCon Offline
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I have another tip;

Aim your jab at their forehead, thatís right the forehead. The idea is that the jab will pop the head back lifting the chin for you to hit with a follow up punch like a cross.

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#328040 - 03/13/07 08:05 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: ExCon]
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I got a better one.

Aim for the throat. The human mechanic is like this; The eyes sees the jab coming, it knows if the jab hits the throat it may be fatal, so the chin goes down to protect it. Bang, KO.

-Taison out
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#328041 - 03/13/07 08:20 AM Re: Lets Go Technical Part 5 [Re: Taison]
ExCon Offline
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Quote:

I got a better one.

Aim for the throat. The human mechanic is like this; The eyes sees the jab coming, it knows if the jab hits the throat it may be fatal, so the chin goes down to protect it. Bang, KO.

-Taison out


I respectfully disagree.

I good fighter will have his chin already down and protected, a hard target to get on a trained guy, hence the desire to pop the chin up.

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