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#327800 - 04/13/07 03:42 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: trevek]
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Just a note of warning about this first link: the Trivaldis are notorious in their mispresentation of Buddhism and should be avoided.

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#327801 - 04/13/07 03:56 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: harlan]
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Link removed, Harlan. Thanks for the warning.
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#327802 - 04/13/07 08:23 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: trevek]
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I think it is our own nature and selfishness that bring us to pervert peaceful religions and justify needless violence and you can do it with anything. Even the most peaceful of religions. It is mostly a matter of inner struggle with yourself.
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#327803 - 04/14/07 09:40 AM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Stormdragon]
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“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil – that takes religion”

-- Weinberg.
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#327804 - 04/14/07 10:04 AM good vs. evil [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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This thread is seriously derailed.

Who said it? 'All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.'

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#327805 - 04/14/07 01:07 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Quote:

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil – that takes religion”

-- Weinberg.





That is blatantly wrong. Look at Hitler. Started out fine and went crazy. Not religious though. That is a complete generalization. How do you say they are good anyway?
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#327806 - 04/15/07 09:15 AM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a philosophy.

Then again, Theravada Buddhism that Thai people follow is.. a religion. You got Lord Buddha in the heaven, you've got loads of angels and stuff, then you got hell. Very similar to Christianity.

When you do die, your sins will be weighed against the merit and it shows where you will end up. Either in heaven or hell, for a few cycles until you're able to reach Nirvana in a lifetime - only then will you be released.

Thai Buddhism is very religious, not so philosophical like the Chen/Zen or Mahayana variation.

-Taison out
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#327807 - 04/15/07 01:50 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Taison]
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Stormdragon he was saying that relgion dosent stop people being bad or good. althouge the way it was phrased was misleading, it was a bad quote. bad people do evil? im pretty sure apparently good people did evil, if a king goes to war for relgiouse reasons im sure his people think he is good but the other side think he is evil, so anything that defines right and wrong is opinon, and anything thats puts it so simply and catogrizes people simply into good or bad is damm annoying.
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#327808 - 04/16/07 12:51 AM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Stormdragon]
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Quote:

Quote:

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil – that takes religion”

-- Weinberg.





That is blatantly wrong. Look at Hitler. Started out fine and went crazy. Not religious though. That is a complete generalization. How do you say they are good anyway?





Please read again..."With OR without religion,.......bad people can do evil..."

How do you say they are good anyway?

Would you say that the Pope and his Cardinals who put Galileo on trial for heresy 350 years ago were good people?

BTW, the Vatican issued a belated apology to Galileo in 1992, 350 years after his trial. If not for Galileo's close connections with the powerful Medici family, God knows what the Vatican would have done to him, in the name of God of course.
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#327809 - 04/16/07 09:13 AM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Ok, wait, right there. Stop. Time out. Phase shift down. Time lapse. Slow-mo. Whatever Hi-tech sawy words you want to do, just stop RIGHT THERE.

This thread is becoming a religious debate. That's a big no no. No more talkie of this, or I'll be forced to lock this thread down.

Get back to topic OR this thread will be locked.

Remember, Religion isn't to be discussed here. I'm merely keeping order here.

Be civil, and let's go back to the topic.

-Taison out
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