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#327780 - 04/06/07 07:20 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: trevek]
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It is.
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#327781 - 04/06/07 08:30 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Taison]
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And one of the toughest to break if you were raised in a belief.
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#327782 - 04/10/07 11:04 AM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: trevek]
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Isn't belief in and adherence to a philosophy or teachings a form of attachment in itself?




Not if you're willing to stop believing in, and adhering to, that philosophy or doctrine if they are shown to be untenable or just plain incorrect. I mean, of course you are still 'attached', but it doesn't have the same negative connotations which your use denotes. So by all means have beliefs (and let's face it, you do. You couldn't function without them) but never be too attached to them to listen to the counter-argument and find yourself agreeing.
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#327783 - 04/11/07 11:21 AM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: TimBlack]
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Actually it can be a huge attachment in some cases which is the nature of bleief or faith. When you let go you know longer believe. Some people (like me for awhile) try to justify their belief even when it's blatantly wrong (or looks that way to them). It's what Sartre called bad faith or doublethink.
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#327784 - 04/11/07 01:24 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Stormdragon]
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Thats why strict belivers are pretty annoying most of them that are too attached become very narrow minded about their belief(s). But i guess thats their flaw and instead of arguing with them we accept that particular characteristic about them and then avoid conflict, therefore avoiding a little bit of uneeded stress.
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#327785 - 04/11/07 02:04 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Shadowtitan]
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The thing with Buddhism is that you attach yourself to this principle, then when you're free of almost all your attachment, you give up on this philosophy as well called in Thai "Proong". Which means emptiness. Emptieness? Emptyness? [censored].

In the later stages of life for a buddhist monk, he stops doing some religious habits like "Tudong" (morning walk), but mantra and chants are still done. Basically as he gets older, he stops doing some activities that he's not able to do due to age.

I'm not an expert, but I do know that I'm pretty smart. Now where was I trolling?

Oh yeah, attachment sucks.

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#327786 - 04/11/07 02:05 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Shadowtitan]
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I'm pretty annoying too since I know too much info that's pretty useless for everyday life.

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#327787 - 04/11/07 04:14 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Taison]
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#327788 - 04/11/07 07:19 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: Shadowtitan]
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Thats why strict belivers are pretty annoying most of them that are too attached become very narrow minded about their belief(s). But i guess thats their flaw and instead of arguing with them we accept that particular characteristic about them and then avoid conflict, therefore avoiding a little bit of uneeded stress.




"I'm *pretty* sure killing Jesus isn't very christian." -South Park

lol sorry it just reminded me of an episode.
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#327789 - 04/11/07 11:06 PM Re: How do you be natural? How do you flow? [Re: ghost123123]
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I dunno, One could still call themselves christian after doing such a task, dose the fact that one dose not seem christian make them not christian? Is someone not christian becuse they do not belive or becuse they do not follow their rules or traditions?
Guess it depends on if you class someone as part of a relgion becuse they meet text book requirments, or if you class them solely on opinon.
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