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#327331 - 03/10/07 08:36 PM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Jer_sm]
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I think the back and legs will do you even better.
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#327332 - 03/11/07 01:29 AM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Jer_sm]
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Yeah, it's a machine that they use in the national stadium. It's to measure the weight of your punch upon impact for amateur boxers.

I was playing around there and asked if I could try it, the coach was rather nice and let me.

But I used to weigh around 73kg around that time. I weigh like 85kg now so the force of my punch would be a bit higher now, plus my mechanics are a bit better than before.

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im just some annoying noob and still you guys are all so friendly


Don't worry, when I was a noob, I used to ask much much more than this. I'd actually irritate my master so much, he went "Go home and write down the questions, and give them to me tomorrow. I'll answer them later tomorrow night".

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#327333 - 03/11/07 02:52 PM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Taison]
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HAHA, he didn't even wana answer anymore, thats pretty rough.

well, thx a lot dudes.
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#327334 - 03/12/07 12:16 AM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Jer_sm]
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No problem, feel free to ask.

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#327335 - 03/21/07 03:02 PM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Jer_sm]
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lol P = mv XD
A.) this is martial arts, not physics :P although good thinking, buuut i would tend to think that the more mass you put on, the slower your hit will be (slower acceleration, and due to the fact that in a punch there is little space, you would increase the time taken to throw the punch and bring the arm back (I think).

prolly just best to work on technique, using body weight better and the muscle amount you will need will come from training

triceps are the main muscles in an MA called wing chun, which talks about the perfect punch coming from the extention due to the triceps ^_^ those people have LARGE triceps.
Although i dont know the machines name, im sure there is a machine out there that measures the force you exert on something. I would say a more practical method would be to get breaking boards (you can set them up at different critical breaking points, making it harder to break) and they seriously range
I could be wrong so listen to the pros on here more :P

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#327336 - 03/21/07 03:14 PM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: alext]
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You dont build the arms for punching power. Shame to all of you who gave the incorrect answer!

If you want to increse punching power, and add mass, it would seem smart to me to work the largest muscle group that contributes to said punch. The legs. Since your feet are also responsible for speed, this is a no brainer. Work the legs and the footwork. The fist will follow!
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#327337 - 03/21/07 03:17 PM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: alext]
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lol P = mv XD
A.) this is martial arts, not physics :P although good thinking, buuut i would tend to think that the more mass you put on, the slower your hit will be (slower acceleration, and due to the fact that in a punch there is little space, you would increase the time taken to throw the punch and bring the arm back (I think).





Er... the laws of physics effect pretty much everything in the universe. Including punching.

I know what you are trying to get at though. But really, if a person has large muscles and a huge amount of develpoed twitch fibres from doing explosive weight training, that can only add to the accelartion of the persons movement, surely?

You touch upon a good point though: Having a large amount of body mass does not mean you are able to hit hard neccessarily. It depends on how fast you can move that mass... dang, there's that pesky physics again lol!
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#327338 - 03/22/07 04:45 AM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Chen Zen]
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I've always adviced people to work their quads and core muscles. People keep ignoring me and say "if you punch with your arm, which is the logical muscle to train?? THE ARM! You stupid or something Taison?".

I don't know about them, but I think I can punch harder from doing squats and lunges than they can from lifting weights with their barbell biceps curls.

Core muscles and the legs! That's the key. Power comes from the ground!

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#327339 - 03/22/07 05:23 AM Re: forarm + punch? [Re: Prizewriter]
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Er... the laws of physics effect pretty much everything in the universe. Including punching.

I know what you are trying to get at though. But really, if a person has large muscles and a huge amount of develpoed twitch fibres from doing explosive weight training, that can only add to the accelartion of the persons movement, surely?

You touch upon a good point though: Having a large amount of body mass does not mean you are able to hit hard neccessarily. It depends on how fast you can move that mass... dang, there's that pesky physics again lol!




so what your saying is. E = MC squared! :P
yeah well physics DOES apply to everything :P my logic was that the bigger the mass the harder it is to accelerate, which is basic. (tbh im sure in a punch the difference is minimal) but then i would think it would be like training with 10 oz gloves, which are SO ANNOYING!.

yeah at the end of the day if you are hitting as hard as you can with your arm, the best thing to do is to build up your technique and whatnot so that you are moviung your hips with your punches perfectly etc. A friend of mine isnt at all built, but hes been training for 10 years and has an absolutely savage cross punch.

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