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#325483 - 03/01/07 07:55 AM Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu
Victor Smith Offline
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First a very deep collection of a Japanese art Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu. Great Material

Daitoryu Aikijujutsu Okamoto Gakken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvPEU9mAX5Y
Ogawa ryu Aikijujutsu Musubi Study
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSBJFcLDIk&NR
Ogawa ryu Aikijujutsu Chuden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyeNbfG9jmU&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Aikijujutsu Mg Brazil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFPEnWPVddI&mode=related&search=
Ogawa ryu Aikijujutsu Musubi Study
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSBJFcLDIk&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Aikijujutsu Ken Kara no Benkyo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOnkR1QpJrw&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Aikijujutsu Suwari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZZ6dKRFnOY&mode=related&search=
Aikijujutsu-doc Ogawa Ryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtukQNfP-vU&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Taiho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWXHjRAz3E8&mode=related&search=
* * * Ogawa ryu Yoroi Tantojutsu * * * This one is very good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHvK3ri8kcU&mode=related&search=
Aikijujutsu-doc Ogawa Ryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtukQNfP-vU&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Kobujutsu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPbUNT7dCdw&mode=related&search=
Shurikenjutsu - Ogawa Ryu Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpKeCTwUOOM&mode=related&search=
Shurikenjutsu Ogawa Ryu Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLVA4tkTQqg&mode=related&search=
Koppojutsu Ogawa Ryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQolTsP1PxY&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Torite Seiteigata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z0rSV3Ftjc&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu - chuden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWZ1BsCHpJQ&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Iaidori Suwari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsB9HPZJTkY&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu kenjutsu Suwari Ippon me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY_F1MSEpYQ&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Nuki Todome kaeshi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bucz8PfjU&mode=related&search=
Ogawa ryu Bun Bu Ryo Do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8OnwhoKnpg&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Córdoba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4IrQmrn2s&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu KusariJutsu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZwC1f5tIw&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Jujutsu Shoden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpDn2ZDyWSM&mode=related&search=
Ogawa ryu Mugen Mukeru no Hoppo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auUzBjbY57s&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Kaze No Ryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCiKdeRvdM&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Aikijujutsu Tachi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfftF5UQIrM&mode=related&search=
Ogawa Ryu Kenjutsu Ippon me Awase
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otxMYeqWjb4&mode=related&search=
Ogawa ryu haya Nawa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAkxeKG1OGc
Ogawa Ryu Nuki Todome kaeshi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bucz8PfjU
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#325484 - 03/01/07 12:23 PM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: Victor Smith]
Supremor Offline
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wow, great find Victor, I'm sure the folks here will be very greatful!

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#325485 - 03/01/07 02:43 PM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: Victor Smith]
Joe Jutsu Offline
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Registered: 04/09/03
Posts: 575
Thanks for posting these links! I've stumbled across a few of these videos before, but with the exception of the first link I think these videos are very impressive. Most of the videos claiming to be aikijujutsu that I've seen on youtube from the US anyway, in my not so humble opinion, just look like sloppy aikido to me. And yet they claim to be somehow more effective than aikido? I came across a four man randori from an "aikijujitsu" dojo recently, somewhere in the south I think, where the uke's were waiting to attack nage, one at a time. I wish that the uke's would be so nice at my dojo where we practice "soft" aikido! Woops, sorry that's off topic. I'll wrap this up by stating that that aikijujutsu woman in those ogawa ryu videos could kick my sorry butt! I love it! Does anyone know if that ryu has dojos in the US?

Joe

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#325486 - 03/02/07 05:34 AM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: Joe Jutsu]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
A disucssion about this group can be found on eBudo at http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36120

I find their answers interesting.
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#325487 - 03/02/07 08:03 AM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: Victor Smith]
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
Victor, great techniques. I'm about 3/4 finished watching all of them and they are going into my saved files for reference. Thank you!
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#325488 - 03/02/07 02:19 PM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: schanne]
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Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 2573
Ogawa Ryu claims to be koryu. But as the people on e-budo state, there is no evidence to support this.

All I would say is that it isn't Aiki Ju Jutsu IMHO. The term "Aikijujutsu" was coined by Takeda Sokaku at the end of the 19th century. It referred specifically to the Bujutsu Takeda Sensei had studied and taught, especially the Bujutsu of the Oshiki family. Therefore, it should relate only to his art.

It is a term that has been mercilessly ripped and abused by pseudo martial arts and samuari fantasists for years.

The fact of the matter is there are less than 60 teachers outside Japan who teach Aiki Ju Jutsu. Many use the term, but few teach the art.

Does all of this mean Ogawa Ryu is useless? Not necessarily. Is it Aiki Ju Jutsu though? No, it isn't.
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#325489 - 03/03/07 10:17 AM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: Prizewriter]
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
Does all of this mean Ogawa Ryu is useless? Not necessarily. Is it Aiki Ju Jutsu though? No, it isn't

Personally from the clips I have seen it looks like a more realistic approach to self defense vs. traditional Aikido. The clips also reveal that the Uke doesn't have to work as hard to make the techniques flow. JMHO
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#325490 - 03/03/07 10:32 AM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: schanne]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
From my perspective, I like a lot of what I see in their clips. Regardless of the authenticity of source, I see technique in execution that I respect.

They also show a range of training and appliciaqtion that is interesting.

Comparing them to a lot of aikijutsu I've seen around, they're definately better.
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#325491 - 03/03/07 10:51 AM Re: Ogawa ryu Aiki jutsu [Re: Victor Smith]
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
Posts: 4370
Loc: Woodbury NJ
I agree, going to look into the style a little more...see ya
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