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#325017 - 04/17/07 03:22 AM Re: rotator cuff [Re: wristtwister]
Cord Offline
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I hear you Wristtwister, as I have posted myself, I too have been prone to cuff problems over the last 14 years or so, and am currently just geting back to full operation after a recent injury to that very area.
The trouble with tears in the tendon sheath is, as you have discovered, they are very slow to heal, and can throw up some long term problems. With respect to your doctor, some ultrasound therapy (not painfull) or a course of deep tissue massage ( ) could help reduce the severity of the scar tissue and improve your ROM and over time reduce your day to day discomfort. Saying 'nothing will help it' is a strange attitude for a doctor to take, and with respect to GP's, they are not rehab specialists, and a registered sports physio may have some tactics that proved to give you more success. I Just offer it as food for thought.
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#325018 - 04/17/07 06:43 AM Re: rotator cuff [Re: Cord]
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Thanks Cord,
I've kind of "learned to live with it" and am careful not to do things to aggravate it (if I can help myself). I think the location of the injury is why he said there wasn't anything that could help, not that cuff injury couldn't be addressed.

My injury came about by someone (who disliked me) throwing me sideways using shihonage. I was standing flat footed when he was describing the technique to someone, and being very compliant to allow him to show it. He suddenly threw me using the "self-defense" method of taking the technique to the side instead of the "training method" tha allowed me to fall smoothly, and everyone in the room heard it tear.

It was supposed to be a "training session", but instead, he had me standing flat-footed and just took out my shoulder. I found out later that he had told some of his students that "he wished he had a chance to hurt me", and I was unaware of it until too late. The situation existed because in a testing session, I had literally waxed his students in their "judo portion" of their tests, and it made his judo skills suspect.

The other one was torn as a result of "favoring" the one that was injured, and taking too many throws on that side to compensate for the injury to the other one. In effect, he managed to tear up both my shoulders, because he took out my left side and forced all the issues to the other side.

Just goes to show that you never know what's in somebody's mind...

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#325019 - 04/17/07 07:43 AM Re: rotator cuff [Re: wristtwister]
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Wrist,
Cord is right with the friction massage. However, if the massage doesn't work because it is too close to the bone then a technique called "needling" would work. Needling is done only by a physician.... It essentially "sparks up" an new inflammatory stage to start the healing again... You just stick with a physio afterwards so as to prevent scar tissue forming in the wrong direction.
Carl
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#325020 - 04/17/07 09:35 AM Re: rotator cuff [Re: wristtwister]
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Quote:

I've kind of "learned to live with it" and am careful not to do things to aggravate it (if I can help myself).




Don't I hear you. Torn rotator cuff twice myself and also some neck injuries, compounded by other body injuries. The human body and especially the mind is a wonder. We learn to live with pains to a point that they don't bother us too much but my fear is what will it be like when I'm older?

Take care and speedy recovery.
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#325021 - 04/17/07 03:03 PM Re: rotator cuff [Re: Dereck]
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Dereck,
I say this smiling, but it's true... other than having torn rotator cuffs, a bad neck, a bad back, tendonitis, bad hips, and a consumate loss of flexibility, I'm doing great.

I think my earlobes are the only things on my body that aren't injured...

"You just gotta suck it up and come back next week"...Billy Kilmer, Washington Redskins quarterback when he was getting killed every week as the New Orleans Saints quarterback.

... is there a chance I could get traded???

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#325022 - 04/20/07 03:51 AM Re: rotator cuff [Re: wiggy]
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Hi Wiggy,

finally got to see the therapist and she diagnosed two points of problem with the spine and neck. She's started me on the old chin tucks and stretches for now.

She hmmmed a bit when I mentioned TKD (she used to do it) but was ok with the Tai Chi. I think maybe I should put the dobok away for a while and just concentrate on the TC.

Thanks for info, BTW.


Edited by trevek (04/20/07 03:52 AM)
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#325023 - 04/20/07 03:39 PM Re: rotator cuff [Re: trevek]
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Hey Trevek,
Congratulations on finaly being diagnosed with neck problems (I guess that is a good thing )
Just make sure you are no worse as a result and that you continue to make progress compared to the two weeks prior.
Carl
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#325024 - 04/20/07 04:01 PM Re: rotator cuff [Re: trevek]
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Sorry to hear that Trevek. I wish I had your conviction to do that but I'm still plodding along. I too have suffer similar injuries with of course the rotator cuff twice being injured but over a year ago crushing my C6 and C7 vertebrae (verified with a MRI) that created havoc on my body. I took a break for 3 months from this and slowly got back into TKD/BJJ and even competed injured and as soon as my surgeon gives me the okay for my knee, then I will continue to do so.

The thing is with injuries is you don't necessarily have to quit the things you like. You have to be smart and adapt to what you can and can't do and when you are sore you stop and if need be take a break. The body is an amazing machine and as it gets older it still can do lots of things even when not running at 100%, but it still needs regular maintenance and a tune up to stay functional. It may never win the race but you can always try, or at least show up and be the pace car.
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#325025 - 04/21/07 05:21 AM Re: rotator cuff [Re: Dereck]
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Hi guys,

I think the thing is that I'm now old enough to accept it is not a sign of weakness to accept that at 41 there are a few little problems which were ignoreable at 25 and 30 but which now need to be considered.I've noticed more little injuries than I did a few years ago.

As to giving up the TKD, it isn't so much of a problem as the past 7 years I've only trained sporadically and it probably causes more problems returning to it than if I had been doing it continually. The other thing is that recently the training I was doing was with a WTF club with a lot more emphasis on spinning kicks etc, which obviously aggravate my neck a bit more. Being a Chang Hon TKD guy originally I found it easier to do things in a more back-friendly way for me, with regards sparring etc.

Perhaps after a few months I can go back to it. The coach is the Polish Olympic squad trainer and Olympic team psychologist (for the whole Olympic squad, not just TKD)so he might be able to advise me about the best thing to do.

The Chen Tai Chi which I'm doing is an MA, not just new age yoga. It just takes some getting used to after something dynamic, like the TKD and Capoiera.
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#325026 - 04/21/07 01:08 PM Re: rotator cuff [Re: trevek]
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Trevek, what ever you do ... do it to its fullest and enjoy. Take care of yourself and I wish you well.
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