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#323057 - 02/18/07 12:34 AM Help with Qi/Ki........
Kage_Meijin Offline
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Registered: 12/02/06
Posts: 5
Hello. Like a previous post by a boy of my same age, I would like to get as much information about feeling ki and chanelling it as possible. I do not have any childish thoughts about using my energy as a weapon, I just would like to learn how to be in-tune to it. I have already done some intense rsearch on the matter and I am also involved in Aikido (which involves ki a lot). I have been an Aikidoka for about 6 months and have attained the rank of 5th kyu. Although my sempai and sensei have given me advice about chanelling ki and them including it in their lessons, I still am not able to feel my ki or chanel it. Any information oabout this topic and/or relating to it will be welcome. Thankyou for your responses.

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#323058 - 02/18/07 02:33 AM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
laf7773 Offline
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Be patient, things take a bit more than 6 months to develope and understand. I'm sure your instructors are providing information proper for your level of training. It's not always a good idea to "jump the gun" when it comes to training. Curiosity is normal but there is a reason for having a teacher, they have already "been there" and can guide you through your training properly without getting too far ahead. Take your time, you have a life of training ahead of you.
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#323059 - 02/18/07 03:33 AM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
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Loc: QLD, Australia
A good start would be to ask your sensei... what should you be feeling? How would you know if you are channeling ki?

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#323060 - 02/18/07 10:04 AM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
wristtwister Offline
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Ask your sensei, and try to understand yourself in the process. If you're looking for written help, the information is going to be hidden in everything written about ki.

Here's my attempt to describe it...
http://groups.msn.com/MunenMusoRyuJujits...448860772859201

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#323061 - 02/18/07 12:29 PM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
Fisherman Offline
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Welcome Kage_Meijin,

As the others that posted before me said, you need to ask your teacher your questions about qi and how it relates to what you are doing. You teacher should be your best resourse when trying to gain knowledge about qi and how it relates to the particular art you study.
The more I train in Bagua and Qigong the more I feel I understand about qi and how it relates to what I do. However, we do not do the same things so it may be difficult to understand each others conception of qi, what it is and how it works.
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I just would like to learn how to be in-tune to it



The best way to get on track with this is to ask your teacher and be patient. Do not look for immediate results. Internal arts and qi related exercises etc. are not things that give immediate results especially in regards to how energy is felt, stored, and expressed. It takes a good deal of time to condition the body and mind so that they are in-tune with qi.
The best advice I ever received about feeling qi and gaining a better understanding of it was to be patient and train as much as possible. Do not be greedy for results. Have your teacher explain what to look for, train they way they instruct you to, but do not try and CREATE feelings. They are something that have to happen on their own through diligent practice.
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#323062 - 02/19/07 01:24 AM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
Kage_Meijin Offline
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Registered: 12/02/06
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Thankyou for your input. My sensei only teaches the advanced classes at our dojo and is often out of town. I only attend the general and beginner classes so I rarely speak to her and don't have a good relationship with her. I was wondering if I might be able to acquire some information here to help me practice until I gain a higher rank and am able to speak to my sensei about it. By the way, my sensei's name is Bernice Tom,6th dan. She was awarded with a scroll signifying that she was best in the world with the Jo and Bokken (for aikido that is).

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#323063 - 02/19/07 04:30 AM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia
Ask the senior instructor... if they don't know keep asking until someone does...

PS: You might have to ask OUTSIDE of your dojo as a last resort.

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#323064 - 02/19/07 05:00 AM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
laf7773 Offline
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Registered: 05/05/04
Posts: 4064
Loc: Limbo
When it comes to energy work it's not always a good idea to try and "jump ahead". It's rare for a "good" instructor to tell you what feelings to look for, kinda defeats the purpose. Your recognition of certain feelings on your own without knowing what to look for is one gauge your instructor might look for to determine your progress. I'd suggest not worrying too much about it and just take in what you are being taught for the moment. Things will start to unfold to you on their own in time. Ki is only one aspect of aikido or any other art, the mechanics are just as if not more important.
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#323065 - 02/19/07 07:24 PM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: Kage_Meijin]
wristtwister Offline
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Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2210
Loc: South Carolina
Whoever's teaching your classes probably needs to be your contact then. Being a 20 year player in Aikido, I would suggest that you work on body mechanics and blending, so that your ki applications are effective. Once you do that, you'll find that you are using your ki more effectively than you realize. Lots of kokyu ho practice will help as well.

When my students have problems with Aikido or jujutsu, I just tell them to "relax harder"...

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#323066 - 02/19/07 08:01 PM Re: Help with Qi/Ki........ [Re: wristtwister]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia
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Lots of kokyu ho practice will help as well.




True.... but there's a right way and wrong way to practice kokyu ho.... I'm willing to bet most people are doing it wrong.... so no amount of practice is going to help if he's doing it wrong.

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