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#322696 - 02/15/07 11:52 PM Tattoo
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Don't know if this is against forum rules but anyone here got a tattoo?

I've always been fascinated with Yakuza style tattoo. If I have the opportunity, I'll tattoo my whole back in a yakuza pattern.

I've been considering doing a white tiger or (Byakko, err, Bya tora?) on my right shoulder in a japanese style (don't really like the western "art"). I just wonder, is there a possibility I will be denied a job for having a tattoo in companies like Ericsson, Nokia, etc, etc?

Feel free to post your tattoo, but no picture of "private parts" please.

-Taison out
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#322697 - 02/16/07 12:03 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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I've had 2 done. The first was a red eyed tree frog named PePe. The second was my name written in Korean. I like the way it looked and have it on my back. PePe is on my stomach. I'll post a pic of PePe when my abs get in better shape lol

Casey
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#322698 - 02/16/07 12:05 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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I have three tattoos, and if I had a digital camera, I'd post them.

My favorite takes up quite a bit of real estate on my back.

All of my tattoos are in family-friendly areas, and are covered when I dress professionally. I've never had a problem getting a job, because my tattoos never show when I don't want them to.

If I remember correctly, Cord will be happy to show off his abundant skin ink.

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#322699 - 02/16/07 12:15 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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This is the best I could do with my vidcam.


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#322700 - 02/16/07 12:20 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Thinking like the young "teen" I am,

I'd love to get one but I'm really afraid of not getting a job since there's this rumour they'll deny due to these pieces of artwork.

I'd tattoo really high up on my shoulder, so when I wear a short sleeve, it won't show. If it does show, I'd be happy to re-adjust it to my right shoulder blade. I also want to do "Tai Zun" in chinese characters on my left shoulder but that'll come much much later.

But my ultimate aim is to be able to do a full-back tat'. Just deciding what pattern or picture I want.

-Taison out
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#322701 - 02/16/07 12:31 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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My advice... take it for what it's worth.

Think about your tattoo for a really long time. I'm talking years, if neccessary, because there are no erasies.

I'm lucky that I did that. I know people who got tattoos that they absolutely HATE, because they made hasty (and often drunken) decisions.

Make sure this is something that you want to have on your body for LIFE.

Remember that being turned down for a job isn't the worst possibility... you may find out that the girl of your dreams finds tattoos repellent.

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#322702 - 02/16/07 12:47 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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I have yet to be turned down for a job just because of my tattoos. I chose a spot that is easily covered and I can show it off easily if I want too. Of course half shirts looked better on me about 10 years go and before 2 kids. Just think about it for a long time because tats are forever. I have a friend of mine that got one shortly after I did. We were still in high school. She liked smiley faces and the color blue. She decided to combine the 2 and now has a blue smiley face on her arm. It looks like its choking. To top it all off, shortly after she got it done a billboard went up in town for some heath insurance company...it had a blue smiley face. So now we tease her about it saying she's a spokes person for Humana. Just think about what and where before you get it. There are no "takesie-backsies" with tattoos. Ok well there is but it's more expensive to get it removed and still leaves a scar.

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#322703 - 02/16/07 03:39 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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There is a halloween pic of me knocking around here somewhere with my arm work showing, but as yet nothing of my backpiece or chest work. I may get grumbleweed to photobucket something for me if I get a chance.

Tattoo advice.

1. always ask around to find an artist who specialises in the style of tattoo you want- just because 'artist A' does awesome tribal work, it does not mean that his japanese work is worth a damn. Everyone has specialities, and a truly great tattoo is worth saving money and traveling for- its a lifelong commitment after all.

2. Avoid inking your forearms, neck, face, hands. there is plenty of skin to have work on that can be covered for work, thus not invoking any prejudice. i show my tattoo's when I wish, and on my terms. for example, my dad doesn't know I have any whatsoever. He hates them and it would upset him, so i simply wear long sleeve shirts when we see one another. You can do the same for work/interviews.

3. take your time thinking about the specifics of what you want- do not just walk in and choose some flash off the wall. Japanese work has great meaning and symbolism in the imagery it uses, make sure if you decide to become an 'irezume', that your work tells a story that reflects what you want it too. i spent 10 years planning my tattoos before a needle ever touched my skin, and hence, have no regrets.

4. if you want a tattoo, have a tattoo. Dont start with the smallest p1ssiest little thing you can squeeze onto your delt- go for it. Have a piece of work that becomes part of the body, not a splotch that sits on top of the body like a random birthmark. If you have thought seriously about what you want, and have chosen the right artist, then have conviction in your choice. Not sure enough for that? dont have anything- you are not ready.
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#322704 - 02/16/07 05:47 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Cord]
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I see, thanks Cord for the advices.

I've been thinking of the white tiger for around a year now, going to give it another 4 or 5. As for my left shoulder, I'm still considering, since everyone is doing calligraphy these days.

The back, I'm going to give it a long time. Maybe when I'm 33, 35, around there when I've got a job, a house, a car, a loving wife, kids, etc etc. I'll only do it if the whole house agrees that they can live with "dad" having a tattoo.

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Japanese work has great meaning and symbolism in the imagery it uses, make sure if you decide to become an 'irezume', that your work tells a story that reflects what you want it too.


So every tattoo is more or less a story right? I'm not really good with tattoo history, I'm more of a newbie fan, just getting into it.

As for doing the tattoo. I'm going to search for a good tattooist here in Thailand. If it's not good enough, I'll gladly take a flight back to Europe and see if they got any there. Schengen visa owns!

-Tomas out
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#322705 - 02/16/07 05:49 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Nice tattoos Zombie.

-Taison out
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#322706 - 02/16/07 06:26 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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So every tattoo is more or less a story right? I'm not really good with tattoo history, I'm more of a newbie fan, just getting into it.




not every tattoo, but in japanese tattooing certain images have certain meanings. for example a dragon can symbolise wealth, or protection from fire, whilst a carp symbolises strength and protection in general. Oni (demons) are traditionaly associated with jealousy.cherry blossoms with the fleeting nature of existence. tortoise with longevity, but can also be used in regard to sexual symbolism. When you see those awesome all covering japanese body pieces, sometimes they are an amalgamation of symbolism that is personal to the 'wearer', and sometimes they are graphical representations of japanese folk lore stories, the theme of which is of significance to the 'wearer'.
Its the same with polynesian tattoo work- the placement and designs used have different meaning, and some relate to lineage and family, so get expanded on with time.
Even western tattoos can have meaning. Swallows are linked with sailors as 'a swallows flight' is an old nautical measurement of distance. Depictions of the crucifiction on the back and chest were a common way for sailors to avoid flogging, as it would be sacrelidge to damage the image of christ.

Thats not to say there is no validity to getting ink based purely on the fact that you love the image, and it means something to you, but its always better to know a bit about something that will change your body for life IMO.
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#322707 - 02/16/07 08:41 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Cord]
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Depictions of the crucifiction on the back and chest were a common way for sailors to avoid flogging, as it would be sacrelidge to damage the image of christ.



so much for 'graven images'.

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#322708 - 02/16/07 10:57 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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Taison, good advice so far, do alot of research and soul searching before you get inked, one book I highly recommend for "newbies" as you mentioned to the tattoo world is "The Tattoo Encyclopedia" by Greg James. It's a general guide to the meaning and history of lot's of tattoo's here's the book
http://www.amazon.com/Tattoo-Encyclopedi...TF8&s=books

however this website has alot of the information from the book too

http://www.tattoosymbol.com/


And you mention japanese work, you might enjoy this site, it's one of my favorites, some of the japanese meanings are explained and the artwork is done by Horiyoshi-3 One of the best and most well known japanese tattoo artists in the world.

http://www.irezumi.us/eg/index.html

hope this helps!
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#322709 - 02/16/07 11:16 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Crash]
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Crash, you've just changed my mind.

http://www.irezumi.us/eg/tora.html

I'm going for something like this. Hopefully, they'll be able to make it a white tiger. Not the same design, but similar.

That site is fascinating. I like irezumi, it's awesome.

I've always considered myself a white-tiger. It's a play on the word "White Thai". Thais worship tigers and identifies themselves with tigers. Me being half-caucasian, which thus makes me a "white tiger".

-Taison out
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#322710 - 02/16/07 11:18 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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Just understand that white is the hardest color to do. They have to grind it in several times over to keep your natural skin color from showing through. Very painful, from what I'm told. (all of mine are black ink only)

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#322711 - 02/16/07 11:21 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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I hope it'll hurt.

Don't forget, I'm a sadist. I <3 pain.

-Taison out
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#322712 - 02/16/07 11:22 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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I'd love to get one but I'm really afraid of not getting a job since there's this rumour they'll deny due to these pieces of artwork




It obviously depends on what they want to look at (and able to see, without a full strip) during the job interview. If you are thinking of joining the Yakuza, it is a distinct advantage.

I dislike tattoos and feel that it shows a character flaw in a person. Just my own prejudices & hang-ups. Since it will be very unlikely that you'll be interviewed by me for a job, well, do what you like with your body or parts thereof.
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#322713 - 02/16/07 11:27 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Well, the only jobs I'll be getting is probably white-collar jobs. You know, teacher, business man, consultant, PR, guide, ambassador?

It'd be like hell if I got one only to know my whole future and education was thrown down the toilet because of having a picture on your body.

Well, I mean, I wouldn't tattoo myself so everyone could see, but I am scared they'll ask "you got a tattoo? where? show me".

Oh, and happy chinese new year!

-Taison out


Edited by Taison (02/16/07 11:33 AM)
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#322714 - 02/16/07 11:48 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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Soon as possible I'm getting a nice big yin-yang symbol somewhere, either upper arm, or maybe the back, and possibly with the Tiger on one Side and dRagon o nthe other. The yin-yang has a huge amount of philosophical significance to me and The Japanese Tiger (my nickname is The Tiger however the Bear would be almsot a better fit but oh well I'm known for the Tiger now and it still fits) and Dragon represent some of my qualities and some qualities that I am always trying to develope better. they are the perfect combination to me. However I'm not totally sure on that yet for the animal symbols too.
When I go into the Marine Corps I'm getting the insignia on one upper arm as well with the American and USMC flags by each other, Semper Fidelis under or on part of thee banner on the insignia, and USMC on some part.

Zombie-those tattos are so friggin awesome. Any story behind them?
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#322715 - 02/16/07 11:55 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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You do know, having a tiger on one arm, and a dragon on the other is a symbol of Hong Kong mafia, right?

-Taison out
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#322716 - 02/16/07 12:00 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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They would both be on the same arm attached to the yin-yang, but no I had no idea. Thanks for letting me know.
Hey I could go there and just suddenly be i nthe mafia! lol
But no, both on one arm, and the USMC on the other.
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#322717 - 02/16/07 12:01 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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teacher, business man, consultant, PR, guide, ambassador?




In that order? You missed out General, which is big in Thailand at the moment and in the forseeable future.

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It'd be like hell if I got one only to know my whole future and education was thrown down the toilet because of having a picture on your body




There is hope for you yet.

Quote:

Well, I mean, I wouldn't tattoo myself so everyone could see, but I am scared they'll ask "you got a tattoo? where? show me".




"...man that's awesome, when can you start?"

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Oh, and happy chinese new year!




Sawadi kup, and 'Kong Xi Fatt Cai' to you too, Tai Zun!!!!
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#322718 - 02/16/07 12:16 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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gong1 xi2 fa1 cai2 to you too "hu2 die2 shou2".

Excuse me if my mandarin is a bit off. I've only got like 1/4 Chinese in me. And it's Cantonese!

Stormdragon;
If I do get that tattoo, I can bet on my life they won't let me inside public bath houses in Japan. So you're not alone in the "accidental mafia" scenario.

-Taison out
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#322719 - 02/16/07 01:23 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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Don't have one myself and maybe not till recently did I think I may want one ... but perhaps that will pass.

Here is a previous tattoo thread: Tattoo Thread 10/07/2006

And another one: Tattoo Thread 6/30/2006

And on regarding a Krav tattoo: Tattoo 9/14/2005

Just thought I'd link common threads.
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#322720 - 02/16/07 01:40 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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Zombie-those tattos are so friggin awesome. Any story behind them?




Thanks! No real story behind them. The dragons on my arms are basically because I like dragons. The scorpion on my back, I guess you could say is my totem animal.

I got my first tattoo on the 4th of July. My second was on Groundhog Day, and the third was on Easter Sunday. This wasn't intentional. (Got them all while I was in the service, a little over 10 years ago)

While I was getting the one on my back done, I noticed my artist had a band of skulls around his calf. He told me it was the only tattoo he had. I asked if he was going to get any more, and he said no. When I asked why not, he said...

"Hurts too f***ing much."

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#322721 - 02/16/07 01:43 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Makes you look like quite the badass! Suprising o na guy who is well no offense or anything but just very, um, I dont know, computer prepish.
Course you were i nthe army though. hahahahahahah tatto artist is funny.
I'm gettin the yin-yang as soon as I turn 18, like on my 18th B-day. Only about 1.5 years to go!
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#322722 - 02/16/07 01:51 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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No offense taken. To quote one of the greatest pieces of American Cinema:

"I'm a nerd, and uh, I'm pretty proud of it."

You can't tell in the picture, but the one on my upper arm has a yin-yang in it.

PS - Navy, not Army.

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#322723 - 02/16/07 01:57 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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I thought of getting a girl's name... then we broke up.

That was close.

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#322724 - 02/16/07 01:57 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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Hey Taison what about Sak yant tattoo's? I understand it's more religious and spiritual and I don't know a whole lot more about it except that the tattoo's have a specific buddhist meaning. You probably know more about it than I do. As a buddhist myself I think it's very interesting. This site was very informative and cool

http://www.sak-yant.com/
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#322725 - 02/16/07 02:01 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Mr_Heretik]
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I thought of getting a girl's name... then we broke up.

That was close.





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#322726 - 02/16/07 02:21 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Awesome Scorpion, ZZ. Badass.
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#322727 - 02/16/07 02:32 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: MattJ]
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Navy? NAVYY!!! Unless you were in the Seal Teams you make me SICK! lol just playin, thats cool. I understand you weren't tough enough for the Corps or even the Army. Ha ha just kidding again. Thanks for your service!
Know any Seals? And if so what were/are they like?

NEVER get a girl's name for a tatto it is too easy to break up and then you're royally screwed unless you find another girl with the same name.

Heretik and I will be proud Marines soon!


Edited by Stormdragon (02/16/07 02:33 PM)
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#322728 - 02/16/07 03:01 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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Stormy,

I don't want to go off topic. If you have any questions about the service, I'd be happy to answer them in PM, or in a seperate thread.

By the way, do you know why there are Marines on Navy ships?

Because sheep would be too obvious.

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#322729 - 02/16/07 04:12 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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No problem!
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#322730 - 02/16/07 07:32 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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having tattoos was never a problem for me getting a job, and I have 5 of them. One of which, Stormy, is a Mark V helmet on my right calf that I got upon graduation from Navy Dive School. Incidently 4 of 6 Marines washed out of that class, including one that was on Force Recon selection. Sure he could run along way and do alot of pushups, but his third grade math skills really didn't help him learn the gas laws

Sorry, just a little poke at the Marines.

Back on track. Think hard about what you get and where you put them, as Cord pointed out!

I have one above each ankle, one on my right calf, one on my right scapula, and a quarter sleeve with chest panel on my left arm and chest(maybe that counts as two).

In any case, no one sees them unless I want them to.

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#322731 - 02/16/07 08:04 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: BuDoc]
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Here are my other two pieces. Sorry for poor image quality.

Right upper arm:


Left forearm:

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#322732 - 02/16/07 08:52 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Aren't the Marines the only ones that require a high school diploma? Anyway, there's exceptions to every group. And I'd rather be a stupid Marine then a girly navy man! lol
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#322733 - 02/16/07 09:19 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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Oh man. Stormdragon, quit making an ass of yourself.

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#322734 - 02/16/07 09:21 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Mr_Heretik]
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Well, this thread had a good run. I'll be sorry to see it go. I just wish it could have stayed on topic.

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#322735 - 02/16/07 10:04 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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So why'd y'all get tattoos! And Heretik- Thats impossible!
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#322736 - 02/16/07 10:05 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Stormdragon]
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Prior to getting a tattoo in a language you can't read for yourself, it would be a good idea to pay a visit to:

http://www.hanzismatter.com
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#322737 - 02/16/07 10:12 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Crash]
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Sup Crash, I should be leaving for Pattaya right now, but I figured 30 minutes of forum-ing won't hurt.

Sak-yant, did that before. On my right forearm. but you can't see it as I did it with holy oil, not ink. I did something called "maht tanu" or "arrow fist". Supposed to enchance striking power and go through any defense. Does it work? Sometimes.

Sak-yant are hard to keep them working. There are some rules that you can't break, if you do, the effects goes off. For example, if you have "Nai Kanomtom" on your back, when in times of danger, you'll have his skills. But if I was to throw my shoe on your head, the effects goes off. Thais are very superstitious when it comes to head and feet. It's considered a big taboo to touch someone head with your foot, that's why MT boxers kicks with their shins. Understand?

Some rules;
No touching of the head with feets or shoes.
No walking across the tattooed guy when he's lying down.
No desecration to the Lord Buddha.
No tampering with the sak-yants.
No consumption of animal flesh (for some)
No disrespect towards your parents.
And failure to uphold the 5 sin (not sins!), or buddhist rules will make the sak-yants powerless.

For example, my sak-yant is powerless because while I was driving on my bike, I drove under a bridge, and people were walking across it.

See why it's so hard to uphold Sak-yant's power?

Yants, or Yantra in pali, are very spiritual. Many boxers does them in belief they'll be able to last until the end of their careers. Imagine having weekly fights and hard training regime. It's better to get less injured, than to get healed slowly.

Sak-yants can be made in ink or oil. Depends on what the wearer likes. I've only done maht tanu on my right fore-arm. My uncle did Hanuman on his back, leaping tiger on his chest, maht tanu on both forearms and a turtle on his neck. Thanks god it was with oil and not ink.

So Crash, are you part Asian? I never heard of a Buddhist white boy before except Richard Gere.

-Taison out
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#322738 - 02/16/07 10:45 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: BuDoc]
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In any case, no one sees them unless I want them to.




Why have them then?
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#322739 - 02/16/07 10:58 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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For you to see them?

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#322740 - 02/17/07 03:58 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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In any case, no one sees them unless I want them to.




Why have them then?




To those who are not into, or do not understand tattooing as a form of expression, the act seems to be purely about the physical ink in the skin, and so it is presumed that it serves a purely aesthetic function.
This is the equivalent to a guy in the street thinking we all do MA so we can beat people up better. Over simplification based on ignorance.

Tattooing has been with us as a species for thousands of years. It is prevalent in every culture, often as a right of passage, or as a way of tribal identification.

the largest and most detailed tattoo I have is my backpiece, yet will never actually see it, and I do not walk around shirtless in the summer, so very few others see it either. It is not there for any other reason that it means something to me- something much deeper than 'hey look at me and all my tattoos'. All I can say is that I have always been tattooed, but its only in the last 8 years that they have been visible.

The act of being inked is as important as what it leaves on your skin. There is a ritualistic aspect to it, though it is not religious, and the bond you make with the tattooist is strong. It is a mutual act of trust. You trust them with your body, and they entrust to you a piece of themselves in their art.

The tattoo community is, by and large, made up of some of the friendliest, most creative and non judgemental people you could ever hope to meet. you never see a tattooed person criticising an un-inked person for their choice. Nor would a tattooed boss discriminate against a tattooless job candidate.

I remember a girl in a bar saying to me 'god you will look awful on the beach when you are old' as a criticism of my choice to be tattooed. I looked right at her and pointed out 'so will you'. she did not have an answer.

A tattoo has to have meaning to you as the collector, either the image or the event that the tat represents. Getting a tat to illicit reaction in others is shallow, and all shallow motives are fleeting- not a good mix with the permanence of ink in skin.
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#322741 - 02/17/07 06:27 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Cord]
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<<or as a way of tribal identification.....There is a ritualistic aspect to it,>>


LoL, I just got sh*t faced on Sea Dragon road Patong Beach, Phuket and got my black panther on my upper arm...... ....then i found out i couldn't go swimming in the ocean for a week or so after

i was sober enough not to attempt this.....is taison tough enough to have one and be a bangkok motorcycle taxi driver (just kidding)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYZa3SEKgsQ
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#322742 - 02/17/07 08:26 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: grumbleweed]
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LoL, I just got sh*t faced on Sea Dragon road Patong Beach, Phuket and got my black panther on my upper arm......




Right. And I bet every time you see or think of your tattoo, it evokes that day in your mind. I bet you can tell me the view from the tattoo shop window, what kind of beer you had been drinking, who you were with, and lots of other memories that are ingrained as deep as the pigment in your skin.
every tattoo tells a story.
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#322743 - 02/17/07 10:32 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Cord]
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absolutly, vivid memories for life (my 2 tatts, i have a love/hate thing for them )



This was its first public exposure about 2 months later at the shooting range just outside Phnom Penh, what better way could i show it off posing with a loaded AK-47?
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#322744 - 02/17/07 01:57 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: grumbleweed]
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This is my right arm. The pictures are shakey, it is kind of difficult to take pictures of your dominant arm. The piece on my forearm was based on a Horiyoshi tattoo. I finished this about 2.5-3 years ago.

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#322745 - 02/17/07 02:26 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: motobusmonkey]
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That looks like some fine work you got there moto
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#322746 - 02/18/07 06:19 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Cord]
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i would like a tattoo of an underwater river scene with a hooked pike fighting, needs alot of planning to get it how i want it....on my back.
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#322747 - 02/18/07 11:25 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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Taison, thanks for taking the time to reply. Very insightful about Sak yant. I've heard about the feet rule in Thailand and that feet are considered dirty and you don't touch someone with your feet or hang pictures on walls with someone's feet higher then someones head etc.

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So Crash, are you part Asian? I never heard of a Buddhist white boy before except Richard Gere.




HAHAHAHA! Nope no asian in me! So now you've heard of 2 buddhist white boys! I wasn't raised religous, my parents didn't take me to church as a kid or anything, eventually I started studying religon on my own and eventually became buddhist. Canada is probably the most diverse country in the world, I've met my share of ignorant prejudice people but generally all religons, races, cultures, and sexual orientations are supposed to be excepted here. I love this land! here's to you Canada! I AM CANADIAN!
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#322748 - 02/18/07 01:55 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Crash]
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I love this land! here's to you Canada! I AM CANADIAN!




Not suppose to allow religion, patriotism or the like on the forum ... but I'll abuse my Moderator power and allow as I also am Canadian.
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#322749 - 02/18/07 03:24 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Dereck]
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That reminds me I plan on getting a tattoo with some steriotypical canadian stuff all incorporated into it like beavers, beer, maple leaf, maple syrup, hocky or curling etc. Or mabey just a beaver with a maple leaf.
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#322750 - 02/18/07 03:58 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Crash]
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I'd like a kanji tattoo, but I'm too afraid of it saying the wrong thing. Maybe I should just stick to something I'm sure of hmmmmmm.....
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#322751 - 02/18/07 05:03 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Crash]
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Wasn't Jack Kerouac both Buddhist and Canadian?

If you want a tattoo in Canada is it like the employment laws? You can't get an oriental tattoo until you've offered to position to a Canadian one?
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#322752 - 02/18/07 05:06 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Cord]
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Has anyone read "Until I find You" by John Irving? It's partly set in the tattooing community and has some really interesting stuff in it.
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#322753 - 02/18/07 05:35 PM Canadians are strange little people [Re: trevek]
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What the hell IS curling?!
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#322754 - 02/18/07 06:02 PM Re: Canadians are strange little people [Re: Stormdragon]
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What the hell IS curling?!




its basicaly crown green bowls on ice.
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#322755 - 02/18/07 08:46 PM Re: Canadians are strange little people [Re: Cord]
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ummmm oook then interesting.
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#322756 - 02/18/07 10:10 PM Re: Canadians are strange little people [Re: Stormdragon]
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What the hell IS curling?!




Saw it on the Olympics a few years back. They take a stone with a handle on it and slide it on ice (like an ice skating rink) and there is a team of somewhere around 6 people I think and the sweep the ice with what look like push brooms. When I saw that I couldn't help to think, "Great now sweeping is a sport. Before you know it they'll try to vacuum the ice. This has to be a Canadian sport."

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#322757 - 02/19/07 08:03 AM Tattoos [Re: clmibb]
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Back on topic.

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#322758 - 02/19/07 02:14 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: JoelM]
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Back on topic.




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#322759 - 02/19/07 02:55 PM tattoo and curling [Re: clmibb]
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I think it's a Scottish game originally. I think I even saw someone with a curling tattoo


Edited by trevek (02/19/07 03:50 PM)
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#322760 - 02/20/07 12:32 AM Re: Tattoos [Re: Dereck]
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Ok, anyone got any examples of tribal tattoos? Especially polynesian ones. Those also interests me, but I'm not really into them as much to consider getting them, but still interesting none-the-less.

-Taison out
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#322761 - 02/20/07 07:45 AM Re: Tattoos [Re: Taison]
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Ok, anyone got any examples of tribal tattoos? Especially polynesian ones. Those also interests me, but I'm not really into them as much to consider getting them, but still interesting none-the-less.

-Taison out




www.bmezine.com

Thousands of pics or every style of tattoo can be found here. you can look at 50 pics for free before a screen comes up asking you to register. i think if you then clear your cookies you can return and do it again.


Edited by JoelM (02/20/07 08:09 AM)
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#322762 - 02/22/07 02:29 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: Cord]
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Was playing around and found something I might consider;

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n305/Osirisweb/dragon.jpg

The western style dragon to represent my caucasian heritage, while yin-yang represents balance between canto and thai heritages, but I'm def. making it red and not white.

It's a cool idea. Now just need 5-7 years then I'll probably do it on my shoulder-blade.

-Taison out
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#322763 - 02/22/07 08:02 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: Taison]
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I never found tribals particularly interesting, I think they are generally just ment to look cool and not really have a particular meaning, I could be wrong because I don't know alot about tribal tatts'. As long as it means something to the wearer and they are happy with it that's all that really matters.
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#322764 - 02/22/07 08:10 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: Crash]
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Ah, I found something that might help

http://www.tribal-celtic-tattoo.com/tribal-history.htm

that site has great celtic style tattoo's as well.
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#322765 - 02/22/07 11:37 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: Crash]
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OH!!

*fiddles with his fingers in a sinister way*

Lemme have a look!

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#322766 - 02/23/07 11:34 AM Re: Tattoos [Re: Crash]
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As long as it means something to the wearer and they are happy with it that's all that really matters.




Thus proving that all styles of tattoo can have 'meaning'.

Tribal work became incredibly fashionable in the 90's, before that it was celtic bands, before that it was 'Taz'. In the trade, the tribal flash designs girls choose off the wall and have put on their lower backs are called 'arse antlers' Fashions change, tattoos are permanent. In the run up to the millenium every poser wannabe wanted a bar-code on their neck- good tattooists refused to do them due to the highly visible placement, but I bet there are still thousands of regretful sheep out there.

Tribal is certainly a strong 'look', but it also says something about your outlook on things. I am very much mindfull of my celtic roots. Celtic warriors would wear war paint of sorts when going to battle- it was bold and striking, not intricate. in fact much of what we think of as 'celtic' knotwork is nothing of the sort, having been developed by early christians after the celts had been assimilated into their society. The Book of Kells was not drawn/written until after the celtic culture had been destroyed remember.
With this in mind, 'tribal' tattooing is much closer to my ancestry than knotwork.
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#322767 - 02/23/07 03:56 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: Cord]
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In the trade, the tribal flash designs girls choose off the wall and have put on their lower backs are called 'arse antlers'




When girls get lower back tattoo's we call it the "skank stamp" over here in Canada.
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#322768 - 02/23/07 10:00 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Taison]
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I have 4 one on each arm

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#322769 - 02/23/07 11:29 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: l947]
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I have 4 one on each arm




So you have twice the standard complement of arms?
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#322770 - 02/24/07 12:00 AM Re: Tattoos [Re: Crash]
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In the trade, the tribal flash designs girls choose off the wall and have put on their lower backs are called 'arse antlers'




When girls get lower back tattoo's we call it the "skank stamp" over here in Canada.




Wedding crashers has taught me to see it as a bulls eye.

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#322771 - 02/24/07 02:40 AM Re: Tattoos [Re: Crash]
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When girls get lower back tattoo's we call it the "skank stamp" over here in Canada.




So does that mean you associate tattoo's on women with promiscuity, or being a tattood woman as in some way negative?
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#322772 - 02/24/07 05:39 PM Re: Tattoos [Re: Cord]
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When girls get lower back tattoo's we call it the "skank stamp" over here in Canada.




So does that mean you associate tattoo's on women with promiscuity, or being a tattood woman as in some way negative?




Nope, I don't. I love women with tattoo's, it shows that they share a common interest with me. I first heard the term "skank stamp" from a tattoo artist actually, meaning specifically the lower back tattoo. It's just a sterio type, implying that girls with lower back tatts are probably sluts. It's just a joke.
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#322773 - 02/24/07 05:52 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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I have 4 one on each arm




So you have twice the standard complement of arms?



what do you mean standard ?

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#322774 - 02/26/07 03:51 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: l947]
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I think they mean standard as in two arms per person. If you have four tattoos, one on each arm, it suggests you have 4 arms.

Or maybe you mean tattoos on your forearms?
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#322775 - 02/26/07 05:30 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: trevek]
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no not all on the forearm . why ?

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#322776 - 02/27/07 04:22 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: l947]
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4 arms or forearms.
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#322777 - 02/27/07 02:27 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: trevek]
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4 arms would mean 4 forearms .
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#322778 - 02/27/07 04:18 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: l947]
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I have 4 one on each arm




One on each arm... and you have four... so that's one on one arm... two on two arms... three on...

Ooops, let's try that again: 1st on the first arm... 2nd on the second.... third on....

Get the idea?

Remeber, there are three kinds of people in this world...

Those who can count and those who can't.
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#322779 - 02/27/07 04:24 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: trevek]
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#322780 - 02/27/07 10:36 PM Re: Tattoo [Re: Zombie Zero]
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#322781 - 02/28/07 09:00 AM Re: Tattoo [Re: l947]
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OK, i am laying this thread to rest until such time as anyone wants to post pics of, or talk about tattos. i have gone past caring how many limbs you may, or may not have- tattood or not
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