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#320488 - 02/28/07 01:28 AM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: tailiugug]
Taison Offline
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Registered: 09/06/05
Posts: 3629
Loc: BKK, Thailand
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I can tell you this i only have 31 years of gung fu training in and hope to get another 40 and i will & can back up any of my posts


Go ahead. Back it up.

Quote:

you might think twise about calling me a troll.


or?

-Taison out


Edited by Taison (02/28/07 01:31 AM)
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#320489 - 02/28/07 01:34 AM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: MikePatterson]
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Registered: 04/15/06
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actually in hindsight (rereading my post) i suppose i was inappropriate to even mention your name.

so again, i do apologize.

it's funny how my "mouth" can run away from me. it's a good example of how much progress i have yet to make.

maybe someday we can meet in person and i can feel what your xingyi is like and then i could make a more informed opinion.
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#320490 - 02/28/07 07:39 AM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: tailiugug]
Fisherman Offline
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 1656
Loc: Colorado, USA
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well its not a matter of time , my tai chi instructor (Fu Shu Li)teaches over 500 student and has only 26 diciples



Aren't you contradicting your self here?
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he teaches the essense to all students and over a long period of time and constant training is enough to master the art.



So are you saying it doesn't matter whether or not the student becomes a deciple? All they need to do is train and they will eventually get it? I seriously doubt that. There are things that a teacher can hold back on teaching you that will make your art much more superior. There are conceptual ideas that you are not likely to figure out on your own because they are things that need to be implemented into your practice before you can understand them. There are secrets. If a teacher gave them all to you at once they wouldn't make any sense and if he never told you, you might not know they existed.
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#320491 - 02/28/07 03:33 PM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: ashe_higgs]
MikePatterson Offline
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Loc: Nevada
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i should have been more explicit to say that mr. cotter trained under the lineage of mr. xu.

i've never seen any of mr. cotters xingyi, and i only said that his reputation was that of a bad ass.

i have however seen some of your videos, and though i have also heard that you were a full contact champion as well, being a good fighter is not the same as having good xingyi.

some of my training partners come from the lineage of kenny gong's shing yi, so i am familiar with it methods, and i did not care for your videos.

the gentleman in question was asking for advice and i simply offered my opinion, which is after all, just that. only my opinion.

i do apologize for offending you, i should have chosen my words better.




Kenny Gong's Xingyi is not the same as that of the lineage of Hsu Hong Chi. Different does not mean better or worse. Principle adherence is what matters. I watched the video clips on your website as well and was not impressed by anything I saw. But I tend to reserve final judgement until I cross arms with someone. Feeling is believing when it comes to IMA.

My Xingyi skills/form/fighting have been judged to be excellent by eyes that are much higher than yours will ever be. So, your "opinions" mean precious little to me.

As far as your second post... you are welcome to visit me and test my skills at any time your heart so desires. I have no problem with that. In fact, I get down to Arizona fairly regularly. Perhaps I will come look you up next time I am in your area and we can "evaluate" each other.

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#320492 - 02/28/07 03:49 PM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: MikePatterson]
ashe_higgs Offline
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mr. patterson,

i'm always happy to meet a fellow cma player. i'd love meet you the next time you're in town.
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#320493 - 02/28/07 07:05 PM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: ashe_higgs]
MikePatterson Offline
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Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 4
Loc: Nevada
ashe,

That's nice. But I don't "play" at the internal martial arts. I am quite serious about what I do.

I'll look you up. Next time you visit Las Vegas, feel free to give me a shout as well.

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#320494 - 03/01/07 12:13 AM Re: Taiji - Trad vs Modern [Re: MikePatterson]
ButterflyPalm Offline
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Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 2637
Loc: Malaysia
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Feeling is believing when it comes to IMA...........My Xingyi skills/form/fighting have been judged to be excellent by eyes that are much higher than yours will ever be.




It reminds me of the song which is meant for kids, but actually........

The Bear went over the mountain,
The Bear went over the mountain,
What do you think he saw?
He saw another mountain,
He saw another mountain,
And what do you think he did?
He climb the other mountain,
He climb the other mountain,
And what do you think he saw?
He saw another mountain......


If I am ever in the US, you are on my shopping list
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