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#318631 - 02/01/07 04:38 PM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Taison]
TaeKwonBoxer Offline
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Registered: 01/14/07
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wow just gost goes to show how little wikipedia knows about boxing, i recently added your shovel hook post to the boxing page under technique, and it was remvoed andi was blocked from editing becuase my post was "nonesence" i tried to infrom the guy who blcoked me that he was mistaken and knows nothing about boxing but couldnt find it. People make me so mad whne they think they know everything
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#318632 - 02/01/07 11:19 PM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: TaeKwonBoxer]
Taison Offline
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I see.

Well I'd never trust too much into an encyclopdia, but Wiki is good. But I'm better sometimes, especially when it's about boxing.

-Taison out
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#318633 - 02/02/07 03:57 PM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Taison]
TaeKwonBoxer Offline
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thyeve jsut gotten so anti vadilism that they jsut asume becuase theyve neever heard of it that it is vadilism
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#318634 - 02/03/07 02:50 AM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Taison]
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SH followed by a rear straight?! I thought I came up with that one!
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#318635 - 02/03/07 03:08 AM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Ayub]
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You didn't.

Bryan Fury did.

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#318636 - 03/20/07 10:43 PM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Taison]
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great thread! question: whats the consensus on CG (center of gravity) during a shovel hook after a setup combo? lets say, for instance, left jab + right cross + left shovel hook combo.

some say weight on rear leg, some say front, some say always center. To me, seems dependant on range to target - up close will naturally shift a bit back, optimum/boxing range seems center is the most comfortable, and if stepping in on the setup, then weight a bit on front leg feels right.

does that seem right? or should we always keep center?

(disclaimer: I only had a couple years of bx in the Army...but I try to follow the conversations anyway )

thank-ya ladies

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#318637 - 03/20/07 11:43 PM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Yes, it's like what you said.

If he's further away, I go with middle, but I rarely put weight into the rear leg. Seems to me I've got no idea how to transfer power into the hook while my weight is on the rear leg when using the shovel hook.

Following your example, the weight for me would be
jab(front) - cross (rear) - shovel hook (front) - cross (rear)

Uncle Ed, don't worry, join in. It doesn't matter if you don't know, any information or knowledge is appreciated in the boxing forum.

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#318638 - 03/29/07 11:06 AM Re: Let's go technical!! [Re: Cord]
Kodanshi Offline
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Registered: 03/15/07
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Quote:

i love shovel hooks- I have no time for ranged fighting


Me too, but mostly because of my short height, arms & legs. I canít fight at range so have to get up close & personal, like a slippery bugger ó whether I like it or not.

This video from Rodney King (of Crazy Monkey Boxing) provides a good demonstration of the Shovel Hook itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F256qCZtzAc
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