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#316308 - 01/19/07 01:54 PM Low x-block
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I was just wondering what people think about the traditional - blocking a kick - application of this technique?

Do people think it works, it doesn't work? Is it practical? Do you prefer other applications, etc.
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#316309 - 01/19/07 02:10 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: Shonuff]
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Lowering both hands to block? Don't think so.
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#316310 - 01/19/07 02:19 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: BrianS]
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It works, I guess. But I wouldn't do it.
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#316311 - 01/19/07 02:27 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: MattJ]
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Classical usage suggests it's application is better suited for grappling or dealing with a downed/bent over opponent than stand up blocking. It can be used for many things such as a double leg takedown to a arm/shoulder lock to a grab/strike combo to an opponent you have just put down or are in the process of putting down.

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#316312 - 01/19/07 03:09 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: medulanet]
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Im sure it could be made to work, though it isnt something I would EVER do.
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#316313 - 01/19/07 03:11 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: medulanet]
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#316314 - 01/20/07 05:31 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: oldman]
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Nice interpretation Mark. However, having Wing Chun experience, we look to PURPOSELY cross the opponents arms, so for us, this would be great help.
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#316315 - 01/20/07 06:56 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: Chen Zen]
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Quote:

Nice interpretation Mark. However, having Wing Chun experience, we look to PURPOSELY cross the opponents arms, so for us, this would be great help.




Hmm, so that means if my arms are crossed when I have your legs wrapped up in a double leg takedown, or a RNC, or a key lock, you have me just where you want me.

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#316316 - 01/20/07 07:38 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: Shonuff]
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Hello Shonuff:

If we make X work, then it works, if we do not, did IT or we fail??? I reject the idea of it being "traditional".

Two hands are rarely both doing the same thing... ending up in the same place yes... both blocking... not in my book.

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#316317 - 01/20/07 10:26 PM Re: Low x-block [Re: medulanet]
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I see your point Med, but the drawing isnt of two guys on the ground is it? Im not saying its ALWAYS bad to cross your arms, its just not a good idea in a stand up strike position.

Take the picture for example. The portley fellow on the left has punched in a very Traditional manner. He has been slipped by his opponent and the "X block" has been applied to begin the lock. Right here, if he studied wing Chun and was in better shape, he would attempt to withdraw the punching hand while taking his other hand and holding the two arms crossed. To do this he would probably punch his opponent in the face then drop it down on his opponents arms, where they cross. Even if he is unsuccessful in the withdrawal, he has crossed the arms of his opponent, taking away his defense. He is free to strike again, with out much worry of counter attack. Take into consideration the sticky hands training of a Wing Chun practitioner and you may have put yourself in a bad position by "X Blocking" .
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