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#315091 - 02/05/07 01:02 PM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: Midnightcrawler]
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You are admittedly uninformed in regards to dealing with MH patients. Underdog has clearly stated that patients DO have rights, many times. Please stop using this forum to push your agenda, and stay on topic. Further off-topic posts will be deleted.
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#315092 - 02/05/07 06:29 PM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: Midnightcrawler]
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Fighting arts offers forum space for the discussion of martial techniques. It is not a public policy forum. This in particular, is the pressure point forum. No public health policy discussions will be allowed on this forum. On the other hand, if you are an LEO, health care worker, teacher in a special needs setting or other care provider in a setting where there is a prevailing mission of care and to do no harm, and you have physical encounters with clients, then your special interest concerns are welcome here. I have no official stance on anyone's public health, social, cultural, psychiatric, moral opinion. That is truly your own business. Please discuss it elsewhere. This forum will help people work through finding pressure point solutions to physical encounter problems.
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#315093 - 02/08/07 10:22 PM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: underdog]
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Whoa didnt relize my thread got out of hand....Pun Intended . Thankx underdog for the info i will definatly put some of it past my co workers, Oss
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#315094 - 02/09/07 07:23 AM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: gojuwarrior1]
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It appears we are back on track. Thanks for your patience. Let me know how things are received by your coworkers/team. I checked back, and we did discuss the good 'ol TW3 and wrist points and finger locks also. You have some good choices. Please post back because that is how we learn and know how to help each other. When you post back, open a new thread. I think I want this one to die a natural death. Call it pressure points in health care or whatever else strikes you want.
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#315095 - 02/09/07 11:49 PM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: gojuwarrior1]
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above the index finger is a bone called the 2nd metacarpal - if you dig your thumb just on the thumb-side of that bone there is a pressure point there that will cause the hand to open... the trick is not to dig into the muscle in the 'web' of the hand, but rather dig in and then hook toward the palm-side of the 2nd metacarpal -- make a fist with one hand and then try it with the thumb of the other

the usual application is to break the grip of someone when they have their arms wrapped around your waist, so it helps to come from "above" the clenched fist

if your thumb is not strong enough, use the blunt end of a pen
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there is also the trick of compressing the tip of thumb -- when you make a fist your thumb flexes -- just follow that natural curl but really push the thumb into HYPER-flexion.

good luck

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#315096 - 02/10/07 07:11 AM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: sportsinjury]
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Ah nice! That point is called LI 3. I've never used it for this purpose. You can bet that I shall take it to the mat this week though and give it a try. Thanks.

As I work it on myself from your instructions, I can see that hooking around to the palm side IS important and also from your instructions, if you are on LI 4, that won't work for this purpose. I like it.
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#315097 - 04/24/07 10:10 PM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: underdog]
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Actually there shouldn't be any need for pressure points to open the hand- If you bend the wrist forward the tendons in the fingers are stretched to the point where the fingers should either open automatically or open with then very little force (akin to taking candy from a baby). This also will not injure or break anything.


Edited by JimmySmith (04/24/07 10:11 PM)

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#315098 - 04/25/07 09:18 AM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: JimmySmith]
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What if you are using pressure points to bend the wrist?
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#315099 - 04/26/07 12:03 AM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: underdog]
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certainly adds some more possibilities- Obviously can ease the effort needed to bend the wrist if the patient is particularly strong.

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#315100 - 04/26/07 10:14 AM Re: Pressure points on hand [Re: JimmySmith]
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If you work in health care like an EMT or something, or in psychiatry like me, Jim Greenwood has a DVD with Kyusho applications for pressure points that come up in an EMT situation that are adaptable for other health care providers. You can get it via the Kyusho.com web site. There is a lot of good material there for those of us who have a duty to do no harm.
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