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#313951 - 01/12/07 05:56 AM Re: Be honest [Re: trevek]
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Recently I have probably spent more time on forums in general, not just this one, than in class. But I have an excuse as i got injured.

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#313952 - 01/12/07 12:07 PM Re: Be honest [Re: harlan]
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in the back of my mind I'm mulling over some aspect of MA. Still...it isn't training. (Unless...one considers the act of staying mentally focused on MA a type of training.)



Harlan, if I understand your MA preferences (forms specifically) I would say staying mentally focused could be considered training. Heck I can remember waking up in the middle of the night with an idea about a form and later applying it. But I could be a bit strange as I seem to find Martial application everywhere I look.

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#313953 - 01/12/07 12:08 PM Re: Be honest [Re: Shorinjiryumike]
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I would rather hone my physical skills then my linguistic ones



You must not teach too many people… I have found that this forum helps me hone my ability to teach my students. You can have all the physical you want just cuz you can do does not mean you can convey an idea.

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#313954 - 01/12/07 02:11 PM Re: Be honest [Re: jonnyboxcutter]
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I would rather hone my physical skills then my linguistic ones



You must not teach too many people… I have found that this forum helps me hone my ability to teach my students. You can have all the physical you want just cuz you can do does not mean you can convey an idea.

-JBC-




If you read some of the previous posts you should have a good idea that many on this forum don't practice much or teach much so ask your self how much are you realy learning.

To answer the question, I was working out five days a week and teaching three days a week until a shoulder injury laied me up just before the holidays. Now I only teach but I will kick it up again when I can get fixed.

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#313955 - 01/12/07 02:16 PM Re: Be honest [Re: BulldogTKD]
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Respectfully, I think a lot of people who train every day, aren't really learning. Drilling, practicing...honing technique, building strength or simply trying to maintain a level of performance...yes. But learning?

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#313956 - 01/12/07 02:52 PM Re: Be honest [Re: BulldogTKD]
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so ask your self how much are you realy learning




More than you may realize…
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But I could be a bit strange as I seem to find Martial application everywhere I look.




I find that just day-to-day human interaction helps my MA. I have taken to bouncing ideas off people who don’t train just to see if they are an effective way of explaining complex ideas. Heck, my MA improved DRASTICALY after I stopped training and started working in clubs and other jobs that had ZERO MA application.

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#313957 - 01/12/07 02:56 PM Re: Be honest [Re: harlan]
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Respectfully, I think a lot of people who train every day, aren't really learning. Drilling, practicing...honing technique, building strength or simply trying to maintain a level of performance...yes. But learning?




I believe this is the difference in practicing vs studying MA.

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#313958 - 01/12/07 03:42 PM Re: Be honest [Re: harlan]
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Respectfully, I think a lot of people who train every day, aren't really learning. Drilling, practicing...honing technique, building strength or simply trying to maintain a level of performance...yes. But learning?




Agreed. That is if one trains with no expectation of learning or becoming enlightened. Example: I was practicing a form, patern, kata what ever you call your form, pattern, kata and I was working on a turn that I am always of ballance on. I kept doing that line over and over and over. Finaly I stoped for a bit sat down to strech and asked myself, why is this turn so difficult for me. Well to make a long story short I figured it out and I have improved on many more of my techniques. I learned, I evolved!

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#313959 - 01/12/07 03:53 PM Re: Be honest [Re: BulldogTKD]
harlan Offline
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I learn best when there are no expectations.

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Agreed. That is if one trains with no expectation of learning or becoming enlightened.



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#313960 - 01/12/07 06:07 PM Re: Be honest [Re: Shorinjiryumike]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Hello Shorinjimike:

<<I would rather hone my physical skills then my linguistic ones

Explain the idea well and you know what you are attempting long after we part company. The two are not mutually exclusive. Both must exist together...

And empty mindless rote is not intelligent training necessarily either ?

<<Just for the record Jeff...

Let me try again, more carefully choosen words. Far more physically away from the net, clear enough?

Respectfully
Jeff

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