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#313823 - 01/11/07 10:43 AM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: koji112091]
Taison Offline
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No offence Koji.

Find a school. Instead of surfing the net trying to find out about Kyokushin, go to a school and learn it.

Nothing can substitute real knowledge as taught by an instructor. You say how can you find out without questioning, my answer is to research about it and then actually experience it for yourself.

Koji, instead of sitting infront of the computer go to a class.

-Taison out
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#313824 - 01/11/07 02:36 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: cxt]
Saisho Offline
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Folks I think your missing the point.




I understand what you are saying. My point was that if someone has a question (regardless of what we think of the question), they should feel free to ask it. If everyone feels it is not worth answering, the person asking will get the idea and stop asking such questions, or just go away. Either way, no one is insulted or discouraged and someone possibly learns something.
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#313825 - 01/11/07 03:43 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: Saisho]
cxt Offline
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Saisho

Perfectly valid point--certainly you don't need me to say that--stands on its own.

I just think/feel that not answering does not really help anyone either.

If they are "newbies" then we need to help them understand "better" not just ignore them.

NOT SAYING THAT IS WHAT YOUR SUGGESTING

I for one feel that there are very few "stupid" questions.

There are however questions that are better answered by actual training and experience.

Take the last question by Koji---guy seesm to think that there is some sort of super lethal fist postion--and wants to know if anyone teachs it.

We are not doing him a favor by ignoring it---we help him best by letting him know his information is incorrect/erronous and try to get him to get some real training--as opposed to just talking about it on-line.

In my opinion of course.

The "best" thing we can do is give people a realitic view of training and realistic expectations of martial arts.

Like I said--just my feeling on it---could easily be wrong, have been before.


Edited by cxt (01/11/07 03:45 PM)
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#313826 - 01/11/07 04:10 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: cxt]
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Come on CXT, despite the notice to the contrary, there are stupid questions...and more importantly, stupid questioners

Ok, perhaps not. But questions are a relative matter and have as much to do with the referenced question as they do from the backdrop from whence they come. In essence, sometimes it is not just the question, but how and why it is asked.

Ignorance can be excused sometimes, irascible stupidity should be reprimanded.

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#313827 - 01/11/07 04:32 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: butterfly]
cxt Offline
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Butterfly

I put it that way since I ask stupid questions from time to time myself
Trying to give myself a bit of an "out" should I need it.

Excellent point though--and a better more exact way to phrase it that I did.


Edited by cxt (01/11/07 04:34 PM)
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#313828 - 01/11/07 04:42 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: cxt]
Ed_Morris Offline
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so...can ya kill someone with a oyayubi ippon ken ? I think Sean Connery used it with pretty good effect in the movie 'The Presidio'....thats where I learned it.

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#313829 - 01/11/07 04:52 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: Ed_Morris]
Victor Smith Offline
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More specifically, who does anyone know who has actually killed anyone with this technique, how many kills, and how consistently did it work.

That is the only way you can answer the real question. All else is theory.

I for one haven't killed anyone.

pleasantly,
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#313830 - 01/11/07 05:31 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: Victor Smith]
BrianS Offline
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I for one haven't killed anyone today.






Fixed that for you Victor.
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#313831 - 01/11/07 05:44 PM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: Ed_Morris]
Saisho Offline
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so...can ya kill someone with a oyayubi ippon ken ? I think Sean Connery used it with pretty good effect in the movie 'The Presidio'....thats where I learned it.




And he even used his LEFT thumb! Excellent movie!
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#313832 - 01/12/07 01:16 AM Re: oyayubi ipon ken [Re: Saisho]
Chen Zen Offline
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Doesnt anyone in the karate section speak english when deciding what to name a thread? Jeez, you guys sure make it hard for a non karateka to know what your talking about.
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