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#313479 - 01/04/08 01:02 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Victor Smith]
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anyone care to 'interpret' this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CaRgTHbXf8

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#313480 - 01/07/08 12:14 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Ed_Morris]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Hello Ed:

He's laying an egg? THis is going to take a while... some bizarre flourishes going on there. I'd love to hear their explaination. I can think of a couple off the top but in total, in combination...going to take a bit of exploring...

Jeff

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#313481 - 01/07/08 02:53 PM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Ronin1966]
Gesar Offline
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Hello,
I dont think he meant this to be taken at all seriously. The performer is one Matt Henderson of Goju Ryu and one time Hakko Ryu, he does some other stuff as well. He posted it himself, he uses the handle Glimmerman, he also labelled it under comedy if you look at the tags.

Regards

Chris Norman

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#313482 - 01/08/08 10:41 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Gesar]
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Hello Gesar:

I know its Matt now. Haven't spoken with him in far too long, but eventually realized... bet Ed knew it was comedy though (he doesn't miss that kind of thing). Thanks for pointing it out though...

It was melodrama (Goju flavor) for sure with a little Mantik Chia ~hip action~ added, some silly "vein popping" and a smattering of circus .

J

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#313483 - 01/13/08 03:41 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: Ronin1966]
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When Freud was explaining the sexual symbolism of dreams, an irritated woman challenged him about his emphasis on phallic symbols. She pointed out that since he was a cigar smoker, what does that say about him?

Despite her smug innuendo, Freud calmly replied, "Madam, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".

Because most westerners don't have a clue to the cultures that spawned the MA of that country, they try to interpret every little motion as containing some significant & secret technique. Yes, those techniques are there but the truth is that some movements are just what they appear to be...a bow is a bow (not a head-butt).

You can accept this or believe that I'm part of the vast Asian conspiracy to withhold information from the "Round-eyes".
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#313484 - 01/15/08 01:58 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: hedkikr]
ButterflyPalm Offline
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Quote:

Because most westerners don't have a clue to the cultures that spawned the MA of that country, they try to interpret every little motion as containing some significant & secret technique. Yes, those techniques are there but the truth is that some movements are just what they appear to be...a bow is a bow (not a head-butt).





Yes, it is dangerous to generalise either way as depending on where, by whom and, sometimes, when that particular kata/form was done by and originated, it may or may not contain any combat techniques or it may be pure salutation either to a knowledgeable audience or paying homage to an important ancestor or may even be a secret message to co-conspirators or to categorise a few kata/forms that are put together as a set and so all start off with the same openings or it was meant to train in a particular way of generating striking power 'unique' to that system, e.g.:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUgXMtq8FMw

The movements from 00.00 to 00.13 is common to many forms in this system and is meant to train the 'explosive/ whipping' power found therein.

Another way to 'guess' whether it is pure salutation in some southern chinese systems is to notice that after a few short movements the performer takes a couple of steps back, puts his feet together and appears to start again, e.g.:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pajaAI43W7A

Or, salutation and application together, e.g.:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tItmXHc-qwI
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#313485 - 01/21/08 07:30 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: ButterflyPalm]
shoshinkan Offline
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Butterfly,

can you tell me what system is represented here please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tItmXHc-qwI

many thanks
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#313486 - 01/21/08 07:33 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: shoshinkan]
shoshinkan Offline
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sorry sorted its Hong Cha Kung Fu , very interesting system by the looks of it.
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#420759 - 07/11/09 12:14 AM Re: Ready Position Interpretation [Re: shoshinkan]
108Roses Offline
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Shoshinkan,

Could you please repost the "Hong Cha" clip? I just bought a book called "Way of the Warrior" by Sifu Chris Crudelli. The book is HUGE! He mentions Hong Cha in the book, but I have not heard of it till now. I ask beacuse I studied Hung Ga for 7 years in upstate NY. Thank you..

Best Wishes,
Patrick Gollin

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