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#313037 - 01/15/07 11:34 AM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: TimBlack]
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Quote:

only BulldogTKD has mentioned the 'best' kicks...



To be honest, since he mentioned the same kicks as others did (front, round, etc) I didnít reread the thread I just assumed. Sorry about that.

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#313038 - 01/15/07 11:54 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Registered: 10/26/05
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Personally, I've been doing this kick since white belt..... and I am very excited about one day becoming effective with it.

My head instructor seems to really enjoy this kick, and when I spar with him, he always catches me off guard. The twist kick can be very deceptive if done properly, and that's where its strength lies.

And yes, it is VERY capable of being thrown high. My old head instructor told us this story of a master he once met. Apparently, when he got a new student, he would stand to the side of the student, with arm around his/her neck, just having a conversation. At one point during the conversation, he would throw the twist kick and stop at their face.

This is now one of my ex head instructor's goals. lol

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#313039 - 01/19/07 06:26 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: VDJ]
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I agree with VDJ's analysis of the kick.

On a personal note, because the kick is extremely awkward even after much practice a person is left off balanced when using it unless the attack is successful. I would prefer not to use it.
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#313040 - 01/20/07 12:02 AM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: TeK9]
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One should not be off balance. If they are, they are not doing the kick correctly. I have great difficulty doing it myself. However, those that can use it, it really is awesome.

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#313041 - 02/22/07 10:19 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Supremor]
mongolianmonk Offline
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I am not quite sure but i believe that I am thinking of the same kick. A Bi-Chugi or in your case a Bituro Chugi is mostly, in our school, used as a sparring move for when the oppenent is facing back to your forward leg. To execute the Bi chugi you would take for example your right leg and some what cross your right leg infront of your left knee up in a forty five degree angle to the groin, solar plexis, or sternocleidomastoid muscle of the neck. I use this kick alot in sparring matches against the lower ranks (I know it sounds mean but they need to get used to surprise attacks) I use it when they think they can throw off my attacks by switching their front leg to the opposite of my leg which really makes it alot easier to perform a Bi Chugi. I may be wrong for I train TSD and as far as I can tell this is a TKD question.

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#313042 - 02/23/07 05:06 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: TeK9]
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Quote:

I agree with VDJ's analysis of the kick.

On a personal note, because the kick is extremely awkward even after much practice a person is left off balanced when using it unless the attack is successful. I would prefer not to use it.




Don't misunderstand me with this Tek, it is awkward to perform, but I too like the kick. Balance is not really an issue as much as flexibility. I can do the groin and solar plexus just fine. The kick to the face at my extreme right or left is not an option for me.

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#313043 - 02/25/07 10:04 AM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Supremor]
Shyro Offline
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I started Taekwondo pratice on a wtf affiliated school. Never saw this kick until a few years later when I praticed on a ITF affiliated school.

My first impression was: "What the hell is that?..."

But I can now understand it has advantages. It's unpredictable, especially after a few punches have been exchanged. Nobody usually expects that a leg will climb to the face like that...

But this as already been said. Now, I can split to both sides, and do frontal split. I consider myself to have good enough flexibility but I can't perform this kick correctly.:)

Anyone can suggest static flexibility exercices used to improve the ability to perform this particular movement?

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#313044 - 02/25/07 11:36 AM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Shyro]
ITFunity Offline
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Quote:

Never saw this kick until a few years later when I praticed on a ITF affiliated school.
Anyone can suggest static flexibility exercices used to improve the ability to perform this particular movement?
Thanks





Hi!
I don't know if this is what you mean or if this will help you, but the way I have success with teaching this kick is as follows:
If kicking with the right foot, stand on your left leg & pick up your right foot. Bring it to your the left hip side of your body, pulling the foot up towards the ceiling, as high as you can. Then take the right foot with your right hand & move it out to the right side, in the mtion of the kick towards where your target would be. For high twisting kick, repeat with the assistance with someone to do the latter part for you.
Once they or you are comfortable with the chamber or previous position, it is vital to use the kick against soft(at 1st) target pads.
Good luck!

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