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#312997 - 01/06/07 06:46 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: ITFunity]
Mr_Heretik Offline

Registered: 05/20/05
Posts: 1074
Loc: Bronx NY, USA
Yes ITFunity, a left leg twisting kick would go in the same direction as a right leg roundhouse kick. I just called it an inverted roundhouse.

If done after a spinning jump in sparring it usually catches them off guard. Try it out!

#312998 - 01/06/07 07:07 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Mr_Heretik]
clmibb Offline

Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 1035
Loc: South Texas, US
I use the twisting kick in sparring all the time. I love the kick. I can usually get it as high as my shoulder (I'm 5'6") but in sparring I only get it just above the waist. I like to wedge it between their guard and their belt. I'm left handed and try my hardest to get the person to switch sides (people usually spar with their right foot forward) and put their left (and usually weaker side) foot out front. I'll switch to an open stance (where both person's bodies are facing the same way) and keep jabbing with twisting kicks and side kicks. People usually get tired of this so they switch sides thus putting their weaker side up front with my strong side.

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#312999 - 01/06/07 07:20 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Supremor]
BulldogTKD Offline

Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 294
I was using that kick in my early years! I was a yellow belt in WTF and my only experience before that was a Japanese style Karate. Hell I thought I made that kick up since I was never taught it and never saw anyone else do it.

I would use this kick in competition after a series of front kicks. I started doing it I think during a tournament. I was very fast with my kicking, especially my turning kicks but I felt that I lacked control so I rarely did turning kicks in competition. I used the basic kicks, front kick, side kick, round kick and hook kick. Now one tournament my front kick was not getting in and I was trying to find a way to get around the low blocking so I tried a half low inside to out crescent but I wound snap the kick like a front kick but with more hip twisting and it worked! I thought cool kick! I never knew that it had a name until now. Hummm, I wonder if I invented this kick and someone copied it and gave it a name.

#313000 - 01/06/07 09:43 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Supremor]
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
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Loc: York PA. USA
Heh. Believe it or not, I have trained this twisting kick a bit as well. This could be a useful kick used to the groin, or perhaps the inside of the knee, but I never found much power in it as the height went up over the waist. I prefer to use crescent/axe kicks for high power shots.

RazorFoot does an interesting version, where he uses the outside edge of his heel. He kicks the heel up and away from his body and torques the hips, ending with the knee pointed down, and the heel pointed up. Surprisingly powerful kick to the body or groin, although height is obviously limited.
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#313001 - 01/07/07 09:27 AM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: MattJ]
ITFunity Offline
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Registered: 07/15/06
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Yes, we have a crescent kck, but that is purely a defensive kick. The vertical (inward or outward direction)kick would be the offensive variation of that, which has a different motion than our crescent kick. We do not have an axe kick, or rather have 2 (different terminology). One would be a downward kick, which has an arch to it, (either inward or outward) or a pick shape kick, straight up & down.

You would be surprised, as I was, when you see someone with the capability of kicking a high twisting kick, as it has power. Please just remember, that the different heights have different target locations, with high being to your side rear. I would guess that your axe & crescent kicks are kicking to your front.

#313002 - 01/07/07 12:03 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: ITFunity]
trevek Offline
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Registered: 05/15/05
Posts: 3337
Loc: Poland
The general came to me in a dream and reminded me there was a picture of someone doing something like a sitting twistinbg kick in his TKD text book (really!).

Seems if the person next to you is talking to much you can twist kick them from a sitting position.

I think it is also useful if someone is close to you, almost alongside you. Perhaps you step to the side to avoid a punch and twist kick to the face.

I've seen guys like Mr Dave Oliver do a high section one in slow motion. Master Frank Murphy also does a mean one.
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#313003 - 01/07/07 08:14 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: ITFunity]
sarang Offline

Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 7
Loc: Belgium
In WTF is that kick also named "bitureo chagi".

It is not used in competition match... but great in a free sparring (without chest protector) this kick is just so great, noboby expect it.
... But tooooo hard to perform correctly
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#313004 - 01/08/07 06:00 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Supremor]
Dereck Offline

Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 10415
Loc: Great White North
Read the stuff, looked at the picture and it did not help at all. Watched the video and I have to be honest, as a WTF TKD'ist I've never used this, seen it or trained it. However we are not your ordinary school.

#313005 - 01/08/07 06:07 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: Dereck]
clmibb Offline

Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 1035
Loc: South Texas, US
Dereck picture a front snap kick (some call it a front kick) now take your extended foot and turn it outward. That's the best way I can describe it without going up to Canada and showing you myself.

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#313006 - 01/08/07 06:15 PM Re: Twisting Kick? (bituro chagi) [Re: clmibb]
Dereck Offline

Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 10415
Loc: Great White North
Ah ... no visit? After watching the video I understand the kick it is just I've never seen it before. It is a new one for me and I don't see me adding it to my training. Interesting that there are other kicks out there that I'm not familiar with. I thought I'd seen them all but I stand corrected.

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