FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 32 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
TomRosenberg, jessylin, play, Keith_G, LeroyCFischer
22937 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
jwwmantis 2
LeroyCFischer 1
William_Bent 1
futsaowingchun 1
Zombie Zero 1
December
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
New Topics
Freeing Hand-Wing Chun's last movements
by futsaowingchun
12/17/14 09:40 PM
2015 Master Yang Jwing-Ming Seminar
by jwwmantis
12/05/14 10:36 PM
unrecognized kata
by William_Bent
11/19/14 07:05 PM
Where Are They Now?
by Dobbersky
05/30/13 08:08 AM
The Beginners Guide To Stretching
by
12/27/06 11:43 AM
Your true goal
by
03/03/06 07:16 AM
Recent Posts
Freeing Hand-Wing Chun's last movements
by futsaowingchun
12/17/14 09:40 PM
Your true goal
by Beefcake
12/11/14 02:44 AM
The Beginners Guide To Stretching
by LeroyCFischer
12/04/14 02:07 AM
unrecognized kata
by William_Bent
11/19/14 07:05 PM
Forum Stats
22937 Members
36 Forums
35591 Topics
432526 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Topic Options
#312011 - 01/02/07 03:34 PM Worlds Strongest Man in UFC
Ads Offline
Member

Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 37
Ive just been watching The Worlds Strongest Man on TV and I started wondering how someone with such a huge ammount of physical strength would do in the world of UFC. The favourites always seem to be the grapplers, but would the usual takedowns, chokes and locks be effective on some of these guys? Just curious.

Top
#312012 - 01/02/07 03:55 PM Re: Worlds Strongest Man in UFC [Re: Ads]
Cord Offline
Prolific

Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
it would depend entirely on if the 'strongman' had any fight training. Marius Pudzianowski on the polish boxing team, and has 12 years (4th dan) of Kyokushin Karate training, so it is safe to say that his stand up game would be pretty sound, and that being able to chanel such enormous power into good striking technique would make it less than fun to be on the recieving end. on the ground, he would certainly make you work for every arm/leg manipulation, but much of his applicaple power would be diminished by the very nature of grappling.
There has been a South African champion powerlifter who took part in an early UFC and did not do so well, though powerlifting does not create the same high level of explosive strength endurance that WSM training does. In fact, training based around functional lifting (essentialy what WSM do) is rapidly becoming favoured amongst competetive fighters as a tool for applicaple fitness conditioning.
Again though, anyone, of any size, with any attributes will not beat a fighter, if they themselves are not a fighter.
_________________________
Don't let the door hit ya' where the good lord split ya'
http://cord.mybrute.com

Top
#312013 - 01/02/07 06:45 PM Re: Worlds Strongest Man in UFC [Re: Cord]
MattJ Offline
Free Rhinoplasty!
Prolific

Registered: 11/25/04
Posts: 15634
Loc: York PA. USA
Tank Abbott. While not really a WSM type, he was massively strong with serious striking power. He could annihilate those of similar skill but less strength. However, when faced with someone of a significantly higher skill level, he was beaten.
_________________________
"In case you ever wondered what it's like to be knocked out, it's like waking up from a nightmare only to discover it wasn't a dream." -Forrest Griffin

Top
#312014 - 01/02/07 10:07 PM Re: Worlds Strongest Man in UFC [Re: Ads]
migo Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 09/03/06
Posts: 573
Loc: Burnaby, BC, Canada
Quote:

The favourites always seem to be the grapplers,




No, the favourites are a mix of fighters with grappling and striking preferences.

Quote:

but would the usual takedowns,




Yes, it's more a matter of balance, while that's necessary to lift heavy loads, it's not going to apply terribly well to takedown defense. A someone that athletic with good wrestling training would be able to pick up takedown defense very quickly though.

Quote:

chokes




There would be some diminishing of the chokes you could pull off, especially if they have good technique. Choking someone from guard when they have very good posture and are very strong is difficult. Triangle chokes might become impossible for people with shorter legs on WSMs who have very large necks, shoulders and triceps, and the same might apply with anaconda and arm triangle chokes which are similar. The key point would be fighting cardio, and if they don't pace themselves properly, after 5-10 minutes they could find themselves too tired to apply their strength properly.

Quote:

and locks




Technique would have to be bang on, there wouldn't be any muscling locks in on people who are very strong.

Quote:

be effective on some of these guys? Just curious.




In general it will be harder than against an average athlete on some levels, but MMA specific training would make it a lot more difficult to fight a WSM competitor.

Top


Moderator:  Cord, Fletch1, MattJ, Reiki 




Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Self Defense
Offering stun guns, pepper spray, tasers and other self defense products not available in stores.

Pepper Spray
Online distributor of self defense supplies like videos, stun guns, Tasers and more.

Spy Cameras
Surveillance, Hidden Cameras, Nanny Cams, Digital Recorders, Spy Equipment, Pocket DVR's and more

Stun Gun
Wholesale Directlhy to the Public! Stun gun and Taser Guns and personal protection products. Keep your loved ones at home safe!

 

Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga