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#310797 - 12/27/06 06:00 PM Horrifying knife attack
MattJ Offline
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Now normally I don't post these kinds of things, but sometimes it's important to see what happens outside the training hall. Ferocious unprovoked attack -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2T5DIxLYg
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#310798 - 12/27/06 06:55 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: MattJ]
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I wonder what drugs that guy was on, seeing as it took how many blows to the head to get the guy to even notice and to start blocking!

Laura

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#310799 - 12/27/06 07:06 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: tkd_high_green]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Shocking! The realities of knife fighting are quite stunning whenever they are shown. I wonder how anyone could think that a lot of the knife defense techniques taught these days would work in a situation such as that. I didn't even see the knife until around 20s after it was drawn, nor could I have predicted an attack like that would happen. There was one give-away the second time I watched the video though, the guy had his hand behind his back as he entered the shop and he took around 2 seconds to remove it from behind his belt, which may have been enough time to react... just. (It would take a LOT of luck to get away from that situation unharmed)


Edited by Leo_E_49 (12/27/06 07:08 PM)
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#310800 - 12/27/06 07:16 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Whoa!

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#310801 - 12/27/06 07:36 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: iaibear]
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Also note that the guard was packing heat but never had the chance to even get near his pistol. This is a real eye opener for anyone who thinks that they are "ready" for an armed bad guy. It also illustrates what happens when you live life with your head up your butt. Great security!!!
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#310802 - 12/27/06 07:44 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: Blackrainbow]
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Guard shouldn't have been so near the door AND sitting down.

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#310803 - 12/27/06 08:41 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: MattJ]
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There are several things I would like to point out.

1. If a person wants to kill you with a knife, they have the advantage. No knife training can make you psychic enough to know that a person is going to plunge a hidden knife into you. Once it is drawn, you have a chance as the guard showed.

2. The guard should not have been so close to the door, as was mentioned. I think the thought was that a visible, armed guard would keep trouble away.

3. If you are aware of the knife, or trouble in general, you stand a good chance. I think the guard was alert enough to catch onto the situation quickly enough to limit his injury.

4. While adrenaline and determination are strong driving forces, I agree that the attacker was probably on something.

I try to make sure I am aware of my surroundings. I consider everyone I do not know a threat. That thinking will not make me safe from a knife attack, but it will increase my odds. My knife training will also increase my odds once the knife is known.
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#310804 - 12/27/06 09:15 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: MattJ]
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Don't fear the knife. Fear the man with the knife.

If you aren't attacking, you are defending...

Glad someone finally helped out the securtiy officer. He was on his own for a while.
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#310805 - 12/27/06 10:05 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: Saisho]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Quote:

I consider everyone I do not know a threat.




I even keep an eye on people I do know and trust. A lot of assaults and rapes are inflicted by people the victims are very close to.

Did anyone else notice how similar the position they were in was to a Judo clinch? I'll warrant that if the security guard was a fluent grappler (particularly in competitive Judo), the attacker would have hit the ground a lot earlier than he did and the guard's injuries may have been less serious. Food for thought.


Edited by Leo_E_49 (12/27/06 10:06 PM)
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#310806 - 12/27/06 10:12 PM Re: Horrifying knife attack [Re: Leo_E_49]
Blackrainbow Offline
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One thing we do not know is the condition of the victim after the assault. Is he alive? What were his injuries? It's really hard to judge how effective his defense was without knowledge of the outcome.
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