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#310044 - 12/22/06 08:07 PM Translations
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What can or can not be translated to kanji?

Names? Anything we want?

Just curious..
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#310045 - 12/22/06 10:23 PM Re: Translations [Re: BrianS]
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as far as I know, anything in an English dictionary can be put into Kanji - it may not be a necessarily 'good' translation.

proper nouns, like names etc are trickier...since names don't really have meaning per se. so what Japanese do is fall back on using a phonetic character set, called katakana. not sure how other asian languages address foreign terms in writing though...

an example - your name: "Brian". doesn't have a solid meaning or definition, so the name can only be 'kanafied' into katakana in order for japanese to reproduce it's sound from writing.

Brian, becomes "Bu-ra-i-a-n" in japanese.

to find out which katakana, look up each phonetic syllable here:
http://www.takase.com/Names/HowToWritePart1.htm

(it also has an example of how 'brian' looks in katakana, btw)

not sure if that answered your question...

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#310046 - 12/24/06 07:32 AM Re: Translations [Re: BrianS]
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Just as an aside, American, England, France, Portugal are called by the Chinese as:-

America = Mei Guo (Mei = beautiful, Guo = country) what they did was to just use the sound of the 'mer' in Amer and called the country 'Mei'

England = Yeng Guo (Yeng = brave) again just using the 'eng' to get Yeng

France = Faar Guo (Faar = Legalistic)

Portugal = Pu Tau Yaa (Pu Tau = grapes, Yaa = land of) using 'Portu' to get Pu Tau.

So, do the chinese names for these countries bear the 'correct meaning' they ascribe to them?

America is beautiful, England is brave, France is legalistic and Portugal is full of grapes.
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#310047 - 12/24/06 12:02 PM Re: Translations [Re: Ed_Morris]
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whats crablord
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#310048 - 12/24/06 11:43 PM Re: Translations [Re: crablord]
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#310049 - 12/25/06 10:16 AM Re: Translations [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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This is probably out of topic, but it's kinda funny how the Thais twisted the names of those countries.

France = Farang Set sounds like "France" in french.

Portugal = Portu-get, no idea why.

England = Angrid, from the word English. Because Thai have a problem with the "sh" sound at the end so it became a "D".

But back to Butterfly;

Thailand - Tai-guo. Tai- Free. Guo - land. Land of the Free. Exactly what Thailand means.

-Taison out
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#310050 - 12/25/06 10:51 AM Re: Translations [Re: oldman]
crablord Offline
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thanks oldman!
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#310051 - 12/26/06 09:30 AM Re: Translations [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Quote:

Just as an aside, American, England, France, Portugal are called by the Chinese as:-

America = Mei Guo (Mei = beautiful, Guo = country) what they did was to just use the sound of the 'mer' in Amer and called the country 'Mei'

So, do the chinese names for these countries bear the 'correct meaning' they ascribe to them?

America is beautiful,




Boy howdy, do they:

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#310052 - 12/26/06 11:00 AM Re: Translations [Re: MattJ]
crablord Offline
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#310053 - 12/26/06 12:29 PM Re: Translations [Re: ButterflyPalm]
celest Offline
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Hm, if I'm not wrong, England can also be said as 'ying1 ge2 lan2', right?

Celest

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#310054 - 01/17/07 01:46 PM Re: Translations [Re: MattJ]
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Boy howdy, do they:







*Tattooed on small of Carmen's back in multicolored lettering - "RODMAN WAS HERE MO-FO"*

Beautiful but oh so tainted!

Scottie


Edited by RazorFoot (01/17/07 01:47 PM)
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#310055 - 01/17/07 01:58 PM Re: Translations [Re: RazorFoot]
MattJ Offline
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Quote:

*Tattooed on small of Carmen's back in multicolored lettering - "RODMAN WAS HERE MO-FO"*

Beautiful but oh so tainted!

Scottie




Thanks for reminding me!

*slams a bottle of mouthwash whilst bathing in bleach, trying to erase the visual*
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#310056 - 02/04/07 01:54 AM Re: Translations [Re: celest]
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Hm, if I'm not wrong, England can also be said as 'ying1 ge2 lan2', right?

Celest




Ying1 ge2 lan2 is England.

Ying1 Guo2 is the UK. Brave Country.

De2 Guo2 is Germany. Moral Country.

Cant think of any other interesting ones... mostly just transliterations. The mostly just try to get close to the English name and make it have a good meaning, thats why they might not necessarily be true.
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#310057 - 02/04/07 01:49 PM Re: Translations [Re: Ayub]
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Alright Ayub, I'll tell her that when she logs on msn.

-Taison out
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