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#310021 - 12/22/06 07:12 PM stoping a punch with forehead
csrichie Offline
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I heard that u only concern about punches that is coming to ur jaw and hooks. When someone punches to the top of ur skull (not the side where u hit by a hook), they will get hurt more than u will. some instructors even tells their students to do so as oppose to moving back.




However is this true? i found articles online saying that soccer players scored a low score on many brain skill tests such as short term memory ect. in comparsion to swimmers, which might be due to frequent headbutting in the sport.



So although taking punches using ur forehead will not cause immedialy knock out or pain, will it eventually lead to brain damage?

and whatabout some of the karate school that trains headbutts on sand bags? can they develop brain damage from repeatly headbutting the sand bags everyday?

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#310022 - 12/22/06 07:40 PM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
Taison Offline
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err. . .

Quote:

. When someone punches to the top of ur skull (not the side where u hit by a hook), they will get hurt more than u will. some instructors even tells their students to do so as oppose to moving back.



No offense meant but how stupid is that? Ok, imagine the force of around 250kg coming your way and you take that with your forehead. Ok, you probably won't get knocked out but your neck however will take serious damage.

The force will make your head recline back very violently which can cause major damage on your neck and nerves around there.

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So although taking punches using ur forehead will not cause immedialy knock out or pain, will it eventually lead to brain damage?


Of course. What do you think? The brain is a very delicate tissue that is very fragile to shock.

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and whatabout some of the karate school that trains headbutts on sand bags?


Like which? I'm a karate-ka and I've never even heard of any school that does head-butts. Ok, my instructor tells us like once a year that you can do a head-butt from a situation but that's really rare.

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can they develop brain damage from repeatly headbutting the sand bags everyday?


C'mon this is common sense. Yes.

-Taison out
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#310023 - 12/22/06 09:54 PM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
Romako Offline
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I get a headache just thinking about it.
Deff not a safe block

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#310024 - 12/23/06 12:31 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
Ayub Offline
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However is this true? i found articles online saying that soccer players scored a low score on many brain skill tests such as short term memory ect. in comparsion to swimmers, which might be due to frequent headbutting in the sport.




Headbutting a sack of air with your body weight in it wont give you brain damage. People who play football for a living are just generally less smart in my opinion.
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#310025 - 12/23/06 01:05 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
ambiguity Offline
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taison is definately on the ball here,but if the situation comes about where you cant 'slip' a punch the forehead is much better than a split eyebrow
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#310026 - 12/23/06 02:57 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: ambiguity]
Taison Offline
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taison is definately on the ball here



It's Lord Taison to you. Capital "T" on the beginning with the pre-fix "Lord". This is my domain.

Muhahaha

Back to the subject;
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if the situation comes about where you cant 'slip' a punch the forehead is much better than a split eyebrow


The forehead is the hardest part of the head but due to it being located near the top of the head, when punched it will force the head to recline back very violently like I stated previously. So if you do decide taking a hit there, you better beg to god that your neck is well trained. I've seen people taken a shot there and unable to move their neck for a few days.

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#310027 - 12/23/06 05:07 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: Taison]
crablord Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
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1) Dont block punches with your forehead. You are not Jet Li
2) If your aim fails, then you end up "blocking" the punch with your face (ouchies)


Edited by Taison (12/23/06 05:13 AM)
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#310028 - 12/23/06 06:12 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
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Csrichie, are you on a suicide mission? http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/s...e=0&fpart=1

I read your post about shadow boxing too. Go find a proper school to train at ASAP, otherwise you may do a mischief to yourself sooner rather than later...
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#310029 - 12/23/06 08:33 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
JKogas Offline
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I believe that Royce Gracie blocked a punch from Keith Hackney using the CROWN of his head. He thought Keith might have broken his hand but he also said that he felt like his scalp might have been lacerated. That's just what I heard him say once.

It's not something that he said he was likely to do again. I would have to agree.


-John

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#310030 - 12/23/06 08:37 AM Re: stoping a punch with forehead [Re: csrichie]
MattJ Offline
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Quote:

I heard that u only concern about punches that is coming to ur jaw and hooks. When someone punches to the top of ur skull (not the side where u hit by a hook), they will get hurt more than u will. some instructors even tells their students to do so as oppose to moving back.




I have heard this as well, but only as a last resort ie; you can't evade or block the incoming strike. Getting KO'd is a possibility doing this.

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So although taking punches using ur forehead will not cause immedialy knock out or pain, will it eventually lead to brain damage?




It can, which is why I don't recommend it as a primary tactic. And to say that it won't cause pain is a big reach, too.

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and whatabout some of the karate school that trains headbutts on sand bags? can they develop brain damage from repeatly headbutting the sand bags everyday?




Regular, sensible headbutt practice on a heavy bag should not cause any harm. I don't see the need to practice that technique everyday, either. Meh.
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