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#308833 - 12/19/06 09:03 AM Spiral boxing form video
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
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Never heard of it or seen this before. Looks pretty odd to me:
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#308834 - 12/19/06 09:46 AM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: MattJ]
Raul Perez Offline
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Registered: 08/08/02
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Looks like the Chinese "Ground N Pound" Kata
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#308835 - 12/19/06 02:09 PM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 1228
Loc: beaver falls, PA, beaver
That is odd I have never seen a kata with that much focus on ground striking. Plus what was with his legs he looked liked his knees were going to break at any moment.

#308836 - 12/20/06 08:35 AM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 08/26/04
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Loc: Malaysia

Though I've not seen this particular Form, I've done some of the leg work; what I've on other Threads referred to as the 'monkey squat' where one knee only touches the ground; this way one can go from a low position to one of standing quickly and vice versa and being able to move around near the ground quickly. My training of this method also involves jumping around and landing in the one-knee-down position. The purpose being to get away quickly when for some reason one is forced onto the ground (e.g. being thrown or pushed) and to get away from any follow-up attack while you were down.

The name of this Form as it appeared on the video is "Luo Xuan Chuan" meaning having the characteristics of the spiral of the shells of snails. (Luo = Snail; Xuan = spiral; Chuan = fist)

The write up in the beginning said it belongs to a form of Shaolin martial art; something about a basic form of training where it's a short-strike system with the hands held close to the body and where the quick spiral of the body generates the required power.

Though the whole Form is done near the ground, it was not meant to be like that all the time in actual combat application. Certain individual techniques from the Form are extracted for use only when for any reason one needs to fight near or on the ground or on slippery ground where balancing foot-hold is an issue.
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#308837 - 12/20/06 10:05 AM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Very interesting useless stuff.
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#308838 - 12/20/06 09:31 PM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: Chen Zen]
Ayub Offline
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Registered: 11/26/04
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Loc: London, UK
I've heard of drunken kung fu, but Hunchback of Notre Dame kung fu.... never!

Lets just say that guy is good at blocking very low kicks and injuring peoples knees and ankles.....
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#308839 - 12/20/06 10:15 PM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: Ayub]
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Its fairly obvious this is but one skill building set in a larger program. Systems like Dog Boxing incorporate a great deal of ground technique and this form seems to represent a grounding response building drill.
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#308840 - 12/20/06 10:50 PM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: MattJ]
JKogas Offline

Registered: 01/25/03
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Loc: North Carolina
He looks like he's having a seizure.

This is complete garbage and worth nothing. If I had to score this, I'd give him points for comedy.


#308841 - 12/21/06 10:17 AM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: Victor Smith]
Fisherman Offline

Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 1656
Loc: Colorado, USA

Its fairly obvious this is but one skill building set in a larger program....and this form seems to represent a grounding response building drill.

That is what I was thinking. It also appears to me that there is a good deal of chin na technique in the form.
It would be nice to see how he applies the form.
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#308842 - 12/22/06 04:28 PM Re: Spiral boxing form video [Re: Fisherman]
ShangTsung Offline

Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 104
Loc: Bomb factory
Is he disabled or something can he not stay on his feet for long, ive met a guy like that before who like fought from the ground and his wheelchair. I agree with it being an almost complete waste of time, its comendable that he is confident enough to perform such a set infront of other people. That must take guts

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