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#306716 - 04/22/07 08:55 PM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: drgndrew]
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Thanks for the updates, Drew. Good stuff.
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#306717 - 04/22/07 10:25 PM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: MattJ]
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no probs Matt,

Some things are worth sharing, regardless........
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#306718 - 04/23/07 09:44 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: drgndrew]
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Geoff Thompson really is a fantastic RBSD author and has more MA teaching qualificatins to list. For a great, informative read, try his autobiography Watch My Back - tales of his 10 years on the door and how he adapted his karate to work in real life situations.

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#306719 - 04/26/07 01:26 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: drgndrew]
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drgndrew, thank you for posting the link to GT Dead or Alive.

I began to read Chapter Eight - Hands and Elbows. When I came to the left hook I read,

Quote:

For maximum power push your right hip forward and slightly to the left before the strike. As you throw the left fist toward the target, pull the hip back to its original position and push your left hip sharply across and to the right, following the path of your punch.




Well this didnít sound right to me but a lot can get mixed up with just words so I stopped reading and just looked at the pictures. What I saw was poor body mechanics.



Nitpick time, I think the fox, cat analogy is bad. I fully understand the point GT is trying to make but I think he could use a better analogy. I mean dogs kill cats lots, dogs never kill foxes without humans helping.

I plan to read more and will post what I think of it.

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#306720 - 04/27/07 02:34 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: ExCon]
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Chapter Thirteen Ė Throws

Quote:

As a singular attack, the throw can often quite easily be neutralised, even by a strong novice.




True if you suck at the clinch and throwing. But if youíre a decent grappler you will own a novice even a strong novice. This statement is bull imo.

Quote:

Clean throws are not always possible unless the thrower is expert.




Clean throws are not always possible EVEN if the thrower is expert! But you donít have to be an expert to make throwing a high percentage move for you.

Quote:

It is the non-grappler's quicksand because, unlike kicking and punching range where you may move in and out at will, once you're in grappling range you will very rarely get out of it before the culmination of the fight. So it is best avoided.




Well if you train in grappling then you wonít have to worry about avoiding the clinch now will you, duh.

I couldnít read anymore so I just looked at the pictures again. He uses the same crappy gi grip for all the throws.

Ok I had to read the last paragraph.

Quote:

A word of caution: never deliberately seek grappling distance in order to execute a throw. Only attempt to throw if you find yourself trapped with no other options open to you. The element of surprise is pivotal in the execution of a throw: it must be fast and explosive. Neither speed nor force will come without a lot of practice.




This is so wrong on more than one level that it gave me a head ache just to read it. I canít go on.

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#306721 - 04/27/07 02:53 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: ExCon]
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Chapter Seven - Areas of Attack

I just scanned quickly through but I did stop to read the nose part.

Quote:

As was formerly mentioned, a severe attack to the nose could prove fatal;





I do appreciate that Drew posted links to this, but Iím done wasting my time reading through it all.

Drew if you feel that there is something that GT wrote that was right on; quote it and Iíll read it.

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#306722 - 04/27/07 07:57 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: ExCon]
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Quote:

Drew if you feel that there is something that GT wrote that was right on; quote it and Iíll read it.




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#306723 - 04/27/07 11:30 PM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: ExCon]
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When are you going to write your own book? You should take your vast knowledge and put it to paper.
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#306724 - 04/28/07 01:48 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: Dedicated1]
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Quote:

When are you going to write your own book? You should take your vast knowledge and put it to paper.




Iíd like to but Iím a busy guy with a job and family plus Iím planning on starting a business and that will take most of my energy.

Perhaps Iíll start something on FA. Like a new thread could started by me for each chapter or something along that line.

What do you think, interested?

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#306725 - 04/28/07 08:24 AM Re: GT's 'Dead or Alive' - Online [Re: ExCon]
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ExCon -

While I agree with you that the nose/fatality comment seems absurd to me as well, the throws article seemed on point, considering the audience he is aiming it to. From the article:

Quote:

In reality their accessibility is dulled by the very high skill factor that is demanded in pursuit of competence.




Clearly aimed at non-grapplers.

Quote:

Grappling, especially to the non-grappler, is unique. It is the non-grappler's quicksand because, unlike kicking and punching range where you may move in and out at will, once you're in grappling range you will very rarely get out of it before the culmination of the fight. So it is best avoided.




Sounds right to me.

Quote:

It goes with out saying that to really get these throws 'off' you will need proper tuition.




Again, aimed at non-grapplers.

Quote:

Neither speed nor force will come without a lot of practice.




Common sense.

And, with no sarcasm, I would be very interested to see member articles on martial arts topics. Myself and a few others (BigRod, Gavin, JKogas, etc) have done so in the past. Jump on in!
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