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#305629 - 12/04/06 08:45 PM courage
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hey guys,

on the bus rides back and forth from my home town to the place where i go to school i get plenty of time to think. and one topic that seems to come up a lot in my head is weather or not i'd actually have what it takes to defend myself in a number of situations i'v come up with. needless to say that the spectrum of self defence situations is huge and its really not pratical to train spefically for them.

for example, i have a friend in school who i got interested in the martial arts and were allways fighting somewhere, and hes in serious shape, hes got 5 inches on me and 30 lbs, but i still manage to take him out quickly. but the mood is fun and not really threatening. in the style of karate i praticed we'd train quite often in placing our selves in these threatening situations, by fighting 2 or 3 people, or just making thigs very very intense, and in class i can handle myself. same in judo, i've tossed and choked powerlifters and blackbelts. but again....no matter how hard we train or how intense we get, im convinced that the dojo is worlds away from the gut twisting and light headedness of real life.

im not sure if this makes sense to many, but humor me please, is there a way to prepare for the feeling of being alone, outnmbered afraid? i've been in fights, and that feeling has always been there, almost like a pre fight high, and the after feeling is similar. and i know that it makes me tense and lessens my potential so im trying to figure out ways to deal with it.

any answers are welcome, ive already explored every thing from medatation to "more training" and my last expirement is to just wait till it happens again......

yours in life
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#305630 - 12/04/06 08:52 PM Re: courage [Re: student_of_life]
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The "high" you speak of is adrenal response, kicked in by flight or fight mode when you are endangered. The trick is to incorporate this into your training. In particular, to your sparring. There are two ways to do this. Perhaps more but for me there's two key things. The first is mentality. Think of a situation you may have been in. If you have been in a real fight, go back to that. Think of every detail of the incident with as much clarity as possible. This will often create an adrenal dump. The second thing to do is, after having triggered the response, is to have an intense sparring match. This should create a situation thats about as close to the feeling of actual combat. However, make sure that you have established a level of contact with your partner and make sure you do not take it to far while being fueled by your adrenaline.
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#305631 - 12/04/06 08:56 PM Re: courage [Re: Chen Zen]
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so i spose like medetation it has to be praticed in a controlled invoriment before you can turn it on and off when you need it?
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#305632 - 12/04/06 09:03 PM Re: courage [Re: student_of_life]
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Yes. This is something Ive been experimenting with for about six or so years. I can now illicit the response at will, but I havent quiet gotten to where I can stop it immediately. Though I have found that remaining still and taking slow, deep, breathes does help slow it quickly.
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#305633 - 12/04/06 09:13 PM Re: courage [Re: Chen Zen]
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thanks
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#305634 - 12/04/06 09:15 PM Re: courage [Re: Chen Zen]
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Very insightful about fight or flight syndrome Chen! I felt this way tonight before sparring because I was worried I'd get my ass kicked bad. And of course that's what happened...
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#305635 - 12/04/06 10:08 PM Re: courage [Re: Crash]
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Daily meditation can work wonders in your life. By having a good schedule of daily meditation, it allows your mind and body to "disconnect" in a manner of speaking. By this, I mean that in a real fight situation, your mind will be clear, and will follow the rules of "letting nature take its course". By constant meditation, your body responds without your mind having to think it first.
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#305636 - 12/04/06 10:19 PM Re: courage [Re: student_of_life]
Mishael Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 33
Loc: PA USA
Chen gave you some great advice. It is necessary to feel fear to be courageous;otherwise, you are just fearless which means you don't recognize danger because you are naive, ignorant, impaired, or overconfident. Fear and anger (rage) can both produce an adrenalin dump and you have to learn to function during it. When you have an adrenalin dump it is helpful if you avoid intricate moves and stay with gross motor skills.

Again, in battle the heroes aren't the people who don't feel fear, a hero experiences fear and then does what needs to be done inspite of fear.

Hope this has help some.

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#305637 - 12/04/06 10:24 PM Re: courage [Re: Mishael]
student_of_life Offline
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all the replies help. but i'm far from a hero, i don't even have a cape.
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#305638 - 12/04/06 10:36 PM Re: courage [Re: student_of_life]
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Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 11
Loc: Australia
I have never realised what I do in these situations, I guess I go by instinct. When I think about it, I look through them so that detail on their face is not clear, only the nessisary body language is clear. Instinct carries on from there.

I really haven't thought about it much, great topic though.
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