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#300292 - 11/08/06 05:03 PM "dent" in my shin?!
Kysogkram Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 137
Loc: Denmark
Hi, just got a quick question.

About 2 weeks ago, I had a bit of an accident during class, banging my shin into a guy (strangely he didn't feel a thing!?). It got pretty swollen and went all kinds of pretty colors .

I think I had some sort of internal bleeding from it as well, 'cause the inside of my foot right by the heel is a bit swollen and blue and purple, so it appears some blood may have leaked down there? I'm sure I didn't knock my foot on anything.

The thing is, now that I'm actually able to touch my shin again, I was just running my fingers along it, and it feels like there's some sort of dent in my shin. The rest of the shin is naturally hard, however at this spot, with a bit of pressure I can push my finger down like a half centimeter (.2 inches) and it feels softer than the rest of the shin. Naturally I haven't found anything similar on any other place on either of my shins.

Any of you guys have an idea what this might be? A dent in a bone seems a bit worrying? Is it actually my shin I'm feeling, or is it more like some cartilage/muscles/whatever that's gotten a dent?

I'm mainly asking cause I don't want to end up with a break or anything like that from kicking or doing a shin block or whatever else might put pressure on your shin. You might say that I'm worried about whether the structural integrity of my shin is intact.

Any answers, comments or advice will be greatly appreciated.
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#300293 - 11/08/06 05:35 PM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Kysogkram]
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I would say, if the dent is along the ridge of the shin bone, you probably have a fracture. Is there any sharp pain on the point of the injury/dent? I would Protect it, rest it, ice it (15 minutes on, 1 hour off), compress it (a brace maybe), and keep it elevated . Also support the leg. No kicking bags or blocking drills with that leg, and actually I would avoid any athletic ativities for a couple days, beyond push ups and pull ups, so it has tiem to start healing. As for the bagwork, pad owrk, and sparring/partner drills, avoid that for a week or 2 at least. If the pain, swelling, and discoloration persists for more than 2 weeks see a doctor.
I've had slammed shins before and they've lasted up to a week or so where I can barely walk onthe leg. No bueno.

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#300294 - 11/08/06 06:13 PM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Kysogkram]
Dereck Offline
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First things first ... if you are worried enough then you should seek professional help ... Go See A Doctor (G.S.A.D)

Now with that said, I've banged my shin plenty of times when I've collided with partner's legs. Several times I have had an indent in my shin bone as an after effect but eventually it went away. You have to understand that there is a filament over the bone with a liquid underneath it. When the bone gets banged hard enough this will swell up to protect the bone. With time, and with the help of antibiotics, this swelling will go away. When the swelling goes down there will be an indent left from the initial impact. Eventually as your shin heals this indent "should" go away.

Now I am only repeating how I understood it when I had visited the doctor for a bone bruise to my hand from blocking a kick as I never visited the doctor with my shin hits as I wasn't too worried. If you are then what do you do? G.S.A.D.
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#300295 - 11/08/06 10:03 PM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Dereck]
Stormdragon Offline
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is that filament the peristotem? I would think if it swelled there would be no dent?
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#300296 - 11/09/06 01:13 AM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Dereck]
crablord Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
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Loc: Australia, QLD, GC
We need like a cord/dereck alarm button. lol
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#300297 - 11/09/06 01:41 PM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Stormdragon]
Dereck Offline
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Stormdragon, to be honest I don't know what it is called. I'm sure my doctor told me what it was when he pointed it out on the diagram but that was over 4 years ago for my hand. This may not be the case for the leg but it just seems logical as it is always the liquid underneath the filament that is the swelling to protect the bone. The rest I just theorized from my own experience and later the indent went away.

Not a doctor by any means and have no problem being corrected as then I can learn as well. This is just my guest-a-mate to the reasoning.
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#300298 - 11/10/06 12:04 AM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Stormdragon]
Joe7987 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 317
Loc: Orlando, FL
Arent dents in your bone a product of conditioning? God I hope so anyway.... because if not, I have some serious problems with my forearms...

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#300299 - 11/10/06 12:43 AM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Joe7987]
clmibb Offline
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 1035
Loc: South Texas, US
Ok I've come in here several times and now I need to respond. Dents in your bones aren't normal especially if they weren't there before. I've taken some pretty hard hits over the past almost 16 years and can honestly say that I don't recall any dents in any of my bones. Ask someone with a PhD. in medicine. They would be the ones to ask. It maybe nothing or it might be something. GSAD

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#300300 - 11/10/06 10:44 AM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: clmibb]
Dereck Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 10413
Loc: Great White North
I think it is being "perceived" there is a dent in the bone when actually there isn't. From my earlier post I had explained I have had several instances where it "felt" as if I had an indent or dent in my shin when actually there wasn't and that overtime it went away. I theorized that due to the initial contact with something hard, in my case another person's leg, that the liquid between the bone and the filament swelled and when the swelling went down the indent was left. The indent was actually the impact spot and was not an dent in the bone. When the filament spot healed and the liquid became more even, the indent went away. Again this is only theorized from the explanation I received from my doctor when I had went in years ago for a similar incident when I had a bone bruise to my hand.

NOW like I said earlier, G.S.A.D. if you are "really" concerned and I stand by this.
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#300301 - 11/10/06 07:25 PM Re: "dent" in my shin?! [Re: Dereck]
Joe7987 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/05
Posts: 317
Loc: Orlando, FL
wow... well I guess it's really good that somebody brought this thread up.... I should probably go and talk to a doctor. But if I don't have any pain in my arms... then it can't be too bad, right?

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