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#300272 - 11/08/06 02:22 PM Don't mess with the Las Vegas police
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
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Next time, it's "No problem, officer!"

http://www.break.com/index/taken_down_by_vegas_police.html

Nice use of distancing and timing.

For those with no sound, here is basically what was said:

"Cop: Step to the car, take your hands out of your pockets
(no response)
Cop: Take your hands out of your pockets and step up to my car
(no or inaudible response)
Cop: That's the second time I've asked you, you're making me nervous, take your hands out of your pockets, and step up to my car.
(Inaudible)
Cop: Take your hands out of your pockets and--


POW!!

Once on ground:

Cop: Don't resist, now put your hands behind your back, or you're going to get the tazer."


Edited by MattJ (11/08/06 02:38 PM)
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#300273 - 11/08/06 02:35 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Looked good to me! Punk got what he deserved.

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#300274 - 11/08/06 03:04 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: MattJ]
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Nice but a little exessive. Going for the throat ,to me, is a little risky. Not that it is not effective but what if he collapsed his windpipe? He could have been a little more selective of his target. But anyway, NICE SHOT!
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#300275 - 11/08/06 03:12 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: gojuwarrior1]
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Disagree with the "excessiveness." Seemed right on the money. Opened hand push to unbalance and take down, no smash to the the throat. I wouldn't want to go for the face...biting-infection-all that jazz.

I thought it was a nice job of efficiently taking someone down without undue physicalness.

Too hard to even consider what might be going through the cop's mind.

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#300276 - 11/08/06 04:06 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: MattJ]
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Great find Matt!

We can talk about how effective it was/ could it be done better etc... but at the end of the day, it got the job done i.e. neturalized a suspect without any serious harm to anyone. That's what it is all about at the end of the day.
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#300277 - 11/08/06 04:28 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: Prizewriter]
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I am curious to hear from any LEO's here:

Are there any specific techniques taught to officers responding as a group to a single subject? Both in front of the subject, one in front, one behind, etc. With two officers, would it not make sense to flank or otherwise surround the subject?
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#300278 - 11/08/06 06:58 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 08/24/05
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Did they ever determine if the guy could hear or understand English?

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#300279 - 11/08/06 07:25 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: iaibear]
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Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 175
Loc: England
I doubt this is a case of linguistics. Being approached by two cops who march up and say stuff in that tone of voice ought to inspire more than a blank look on the face of an innocent tourist. Can you imagine if you were in some foreign country and two cops approached you like that? I think I'd put my hands up or make 'I think there's been some mistake' type faces, wouldn't you?
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#300280 - 11/08/06 08:36 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: MikeChaff]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/05
Posts: 4117
Loc: California
What was the guy being charged with? I don't think the cop ever told him what his reasons for detaining the guy were. Is that correct practice? Sure, witnesses said that the guy was involved in a fight, but don't officers have to inform the crim of what they are being detained for before doing so? I'm not so great on my US law so I don't know whether this is common.


Edited by Leo_E_49 (11/08/06 08:37 PM)
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#300281 - 11/08/06 11:40 PM Re: Don't mess with the Las Vegas police [Re: Leo_E_49]
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Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 1035
Loc: South Texas, US
I know here in Texas that you don't have to be informed of the reasons for being detained until you ask or you are formally arrested (just becaust the cuffs are on doesn't mean you are under arrest). Most of the time when a cop tell you to get your hands out of your pockets you do it. You don't question and you don't ignore. I know my husband was pulled over a number of years ago for driving under the influence. The cop approched his window and asked him to step out of the vehicle. He laughed at them. He was asked again to step out and he didn't. My husband was pulled out of the car by his shirt by the Corpus Christi police. From that time on every time a cop askes him to step out of the car it's "yes, sir/ma'am". Looks like Nevada cops don't mess around just like Texas cops.

Casey
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