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#299984 - 11/07/06 07:49 AM POLL - How do you learn?
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
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Loc: York PA. USA
Ok, taking from Reiki's Weapons training poll, I thought I would expand it to all types of martial arts here. We have had a lot of discussions about training from instructors versus other resources. How do you learn and what has your experience been?
How do you learn?
Only one choice allowed

Votes accepted starting: 11/07/06 07:49 AM
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#299985 - 11/07/06 08:39 AM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: MattJ]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/05
Posts: 4117
Loc: California
I learn primarily from my instructors. However, I learn principles of fighting and self defense (NOT techniques) from books and videos. I also sample techniques at seminars, although I do not consider myself practiced at them, it helps to direct my learning.
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#299986 - 11/07/06 09:19 AM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: Leo_E_49]
Cord Offline

Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
i ticked 'instructor and other sources' though I dont think of other sources specificaly in terms of media. Our classes consist of demonstration, then partnering up and trying the techniques shown in a flowing drill. The instructors then observe and step in to advise/correct people as they go. We are also encouraged to help one another by pointing out obvious flaws in our partners technique ('you keep dropping guard' etc).Also, I see sparring as a process of self education when approached in the right way. These i see coming into the 'learning from friends' category, although this is made possible by the environment provided by the instructors, so its open to interpretation.

There is a quote by a guy called Bob Sykes that I have always liked since I first read it:

'Study a system,yes, but dont become solely dependant on it. In other words, let the system serve you, and not you the system. Take time to look outside the box and see what is really going on.'

I know this could be more directed to the concept/discussion on cross training, but the open mindset it represents is an important tool for anyone truly interested in the acquisition of knowledge in any field IMO.

Edited by Cord (11/07/06 09:22 AM)
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#299987 - 11/07/06 09:27 AM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: MattJ]
Dereck Offline

Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 10416
Loc: Great White North
Instructor and other sources. I found that the question did not allow me to answer properly. My Instructor for sure helps out mostly but I do get materials from the internet. I have taken several videos and see moves that I could easily incorporate into my tools so take that to class it work it through with others, usually one of our 2nd Dans. He probably is my main source of training which I could not add due to the list did not include "other students".

#299988 - 11/07/06 09:30 AM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: MattJ]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
Posts: 6665
Loc: Amherst, MA
I've observed something very curious in my short time studying martial arts: what I'm learning and what my sensei is teaching...are two different things.

Learning from an instructor is more rewarding, provides a richness of context and dynamism that no video can supplant. It provides opportunities for learning and change that are qualitatively different.

#299989 - 11/07/06 09:30 AM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: Dereck]
iaibear Offline

Registered: 08/24/05
Posts: 1304
Loc: upstate New York
I do own videos of the major Ryu in Iaido as done by my instructors. Reference only when memory fails.

#299990 - 11/07/06 09:34 AM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: Cord]
RazorFoot Offline
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 2064
Loc: Seated at the computer, DUH
The initial learning I get from instructors and in the dojo/dojang. I am introduced to the techniques, shown how they work in a static environment, and then practice it till I get the mechanics of it correct. Then, the true learning begins. I pull in friends and apply the techniques to a living, breathing, resisting target.

I found out for myself, a while ago, that if I do not do this, I have a rude wake up call waiting for me if I ever try to use a technique for the first time.

DVD's, videos, books, and other multimedia are very helpful. If I do not have the opportunity to train with someone or in a style that I wish to because of distance or some other reason, this type of training makes it possible for me to have exposure to something I otherwise would have missed out on. It allows me to train with Mr Burkland about twice a week even though he is in Cali and I am in Md. Got to get my Ashihara fix on.

I even review old video of myself to see my weak points and to see where I need to improve. Over the years, this has been pretty helpful.

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#299991 - 11/07/06 01:32 PM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: MattJ]
hedkikr Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 2827
Loc: Southern California, USA
The poll is not valid because training requires many sources of knowledge. In most cases, a knowledgable instructor is key.

But as the MA-ist progresses, he/she will encorporate techniques, concepts & strategies from other sources (media, seminars, other MA/instructors, colleagues & your own creativity).

It's like asking how your personality became what it is...parents, siblings, friends, enemies, social surroundings, etc. There's no single answer.

#299992 - 11/07/06 02:27 PM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: hedkikr]
steved Offline

Registered: 10/31/06
Posts: 13
Loc: Brixham, England
Mainly from instructors, but im learning freestyle MA from a friend.
freestyle martial arts

#299993 - 11/07/06 02:37 PM Re: POLL - How do you learn? [Re: RazorFoot]
Diga Offline

Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 209
Loc: Hoodsport, Washington
Looks like RazorFoot and I have a lot in common with our training methods.
One difference I see is..... the guy that worked with me after classes is a rib breaker like him. He had the fastest spinning back kick of anyone I have ever seen and in our years working out I got my ribs cracked 3 times.

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