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#299819 - 02/05/08 07:03 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: fileboy2002]
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#299820 - 03/05/08 10:50 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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In one of the very earliest Western books about Tibetan Buddhism, entitled "The Message of the Tibetans," Arnaud Desjardin reported a conversation that he had had with Kalu Rinpoche.

He had asked Rinpoche the age-old question,

"What is Truth?"

Rinpoche replied,

"You live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality, and you are that reality, but you donít know it. If you should ever wake up to that reality you would realize that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all."

Truth and "now" are not different.
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#299821 - 03/05/08 04:48 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: janxspirit]
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The truth is the person you wake up beside.
See how well I block your punches with my jaw!!

Supporting everyone saying "nuts to cancer"

#299822 - 03/05/08 05:01 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: trevek]
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you wake up

#299823 - 03/05/08 05:09 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: oldman]
trevek Offline
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Yep, sometimes the one you go to sleep beside isn't the one you wake up beside.
See how well I block your punches with my jaw!!

Supporting everyone saying "nuts to cancer"

#299824 - 03/05/08 05:16 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: trevek]
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I can only say the truth is relative.
There can only be one absolute truth with regards to any situation. The question to ask is "who, if anyone, knows the absolute truth".

Take the classic example of a car accident. The police come and ask 5 witnesses a "what happened?". They all tell a different story, but neither are lying. They tell what they heard and what they saw - from thier angle and perspective.

Then you have the drivers who are not necessarily lying, but you have to discount atleast some of what they say like "i was only doing 25 mph".

The point is there are 5 "true stories" but only one real truth which will likely never be known.

Take this idea and apply it to events that were not witnessed by anyone and you certainly will never know. People will come up with theories and create models and do experiemnts that will "prove" thier idea of what happened - but then so can a dozen others.

So although again, there is an absolute truth, there's no way to know. That's whay we have faith.

You can put your faith in your favorite scientist and accept what he says as the truth. But it's still faith and not necessarily the truth.

#299825 - 03/05/08 10:46 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: JAMJTX]
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The sun exists


#299826 - 03/05/08 11:33 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: jude33]
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If it exploded 6 minutes ago you would not know until three minutes from now.

#299827 - 03/06/08 07:29 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: oldman]
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I'd first assume maybe we forgot to pay the electric bill.

#299828 - 03/06/08 09:39 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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Hello Harlan:

<<What is Truth

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