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#299809 - 01/02/08 01:15 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Stormdragon]
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Thanx for the back up lol Good Shyt there

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#299810 - 01/02/08 02:26 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Stormdragon]
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I did not insult you. I did not even address my comment to you. I cannot imagine why you have taken such personal offense at this.

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#299811 - 01/02/08 02:56 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: fileboy2002]
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Drivel.

Why do Westerners fall for meaningless, pseudo-philosophical blather like this so readily?

Here's a hint: just because it is hard to understand does not mean it represents "wisdom."





This is the insult I'm talking about which I thought was directed toward my comment.
Anyway I think my origional "heated debate" was with Baumschrat and somehow I mistook them for you although at some point I had a disagreement with you leading to this.
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#299812 - 01/02/08 02:58 AM Truth thread-jokogas might actually be right! [Re: JKogas]
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Of course there is absolute truth.

Here is another example of that truth. 70 miles per hour is the speed limit on I-40 between Statesville and Winston-Salem, North Carolina. It is absolute truth because it's an irrefutable fact.

Be careful not to let those into mental masturbation attempt to have you believe that the sun is shining when the rain is pouring. Dig?


-John




Dang I hate to admit it but I think jkogas is the one on the right track here.


Edited by Stormdragon (01/02/08 02:59 AM)
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#299813 - 01/17/08 07:40 PM Re: Truth thread-jokogas might actually be right! [Re: Stormdragon]
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Quote:

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Of course there is absolute truth.
Here is another example of that truth. 70 miles per hour is the speed limit on I-40 between Statesville and Winston-Salem, North Carolina. It is absolute truth because it's an irrefutable fact.

Be careful not to let those into mental masturbation attempt to have you believe that the sun is shining when the rain is pouring. Dig?
-John



Dang I hate to admit it but I think jkogas is the one on the right track here.




I agree. Absolute truth depends upon unbiased fact: what really happened (no grey areas). Absolute truth becomes distorted because we filter information to reflect our personalities; the result is relative truth. Let's take jkogas' statement a step further. We have the Little Old Lady from Pasadena and Mario Andretti on that same stretch of interstate both going 70 mph. Granny thinks it's fast because she's used to 15 Mph in the left hand lane. On the other hand, Mario thinks it's rather slow because he's used to 100+. Who's truth is true?

For the second part: there's nothing wrong with having a positive outlook. Various studies indicate people with positive outlooks are generally happier and much more fun to be around.
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#299814 - 01/18/08 04:51 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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Hi,

The Truth is that the REAL Truth is the Truth about " Trueth " Love!!!

Mats Fondelius

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#299815 - 02/03/08 08:19 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: MatsFondelius]
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so, stormy, your saying optimists are usually more optimistic XD.

Truth. What indeed is it indeed. You are asking two questions in one! What is truth? truth is that wich is. What is true? by our scientists and our theories, the universe does not exist and by that logic, everything we know is false, and thus nothing is true and truth does not exist. But I have lost faith in science (an oxymoron, to think of faith in science)
and will continue to beleive that it is very ture that I am...was just eating a rice crispy square,
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#299816 - 02/04/08 10:05 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Vennificus]
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are you a hunter and gatherer now?, or do you drive a car to the temperature controled supermarket and purchase food with money you earned from a field of non physical labor specialization?

did you get vaccinated when you were a kid? how are those holding up for you?


or... did the science around you break-down as soon as you lost 'faith' in it? Thats the difference isn't it. science doesn't break down just because you stop recognizing it.

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#299817 - 02/04/08 02:07 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I go hunting and gathering from time to time. no i do not, Not technically, no, No they lost my card for vaccines, Haven't gotten one in a few years,

and I'm sorry, Science isn't wrong, scientists are. I haven't lost all faith in science, just some when they tell me one thing and then tell me something that totally contradicts the others. When I was told that there were only three types of matter? Plasma was classified as the fourth. When I was told that there were NINE planets in the solar system? They downgraded pluto so now we have eight (otherwise we'd have around 12). When I was told that computers weren't going to get much faster? Ps3. screens couldn't get thinner? OLED (organic light emmting diode, You can paper your wall with this stuff).
I don't take things at face value ever scince I was told the universe doesn't actually exist, and time was discrete not continuous.

So Scientists will continue to tell me that I am not in fact eating my muffin, I'm just gonna keep chewing on a large blob of nothing and carry on.
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#299818 - 02/05/08 06:37 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Vennificus]
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Have religious leaders, mystics, or gurus been more realiable than scientists?

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