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#299829 - 03/06/08 10:07 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: oldman]
jude33 Offline

Registered: 03/14/07
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If it exploded 6 minutes ago you would not know until three minutes from now.

The Sun still exists. As the Earth rotated, and here got the rays, it got lighter.

If Proxima Centauri exploded a year ago I wouldnt know
untill 3.3 years from now.

Unless someone on the planet that spins around it, predicted it 2 years ago from now,

and if they had managed to invent a method that maintained the strength of radio waves for that distance,

and had phoned me 2 years ago from now and had let me know in advance of the star exploding

From the time of phoning the call would take a further 2.3 years from now to get here.

So although I could hear his voice in the future, eg 2.3 years time from now

He would have gone 4.3 years ago in the past when I hear his voice 2.3 years from now in the future.

and wouldnt be around anymore.

A voice from the past heard in the future.

Is that truth?


#299830 - 03/08/08 01:25 AM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: janxspirit]
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Registered: 04/17/05
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In one of the very earliest Western books about Tibetan Buddhism, entitled "The Message of the Tibetans," Arnaud Desjardin reported a conversation that he had had with Kalu Rinpoche.

He had asked Rinpoche the age-old question,

"What is Truth?"

Rinpoche replied,

"You live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality, and you are that reality, but you donít know it. If you should ever wake up to that reality you would realize that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all."

Truth and "now" are not different.

Wow! Its great when you read something like this and understand completely. If only people learned to focus their attention outwards they would see whats really going on instead of having their baised interpretation of reality. We all seem to be worrying about the wrong things. What does this person think of me? Am I walking confidently? (By the way, if you ask yourself the second question, then I'm afraid the answer is no.) The only way to be yourself, is to not think of yourself.

Awareness of the present moment or lack of, is probably the only thing in the way of physical and mental peace.
As it is, I can only glimpse this peace, but I know what to aim for and because I've had many moments now during which I have been fully aware, learning through such experiences that it is the most important skill a person can learn for themselves and for the rest of the world. If you are always aware, then you are always the kind, considerate, peaceful, perfect being that you've always been. It breeds and enthusiasm for even the most mundane occurrences. Achieving full awareness should be a top priority in our lives (maybe my biased interpretation). So is awareness really to the to inner peace and wisdom? I believe so because I've seen it many times. To me, it's unmistakeable. I just wish everyone could learn to free themselves from their self inflicted turmoil.
Sticks n stones'll break my bones, but if I land the first one, you're in trouble!

#299831 - 03/08/08 02:52 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: jkdwarrior]
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"What is truth?" was a question on an English exam I took in my final year of high school.

I mean WTF???
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