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#299739 - 11/06/06 01:03 PM What is 'Truth'?
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In one of the very earliest Western books about Tibetan Buddhism, entitled "The Message of the Tibetans," Arnaud Desjardin reported a conversation that he had had with Kalu Rinpoche.

He had asked Rinpoche the age-old question,

"What is Truth?"

Rinpoche replied,

"You live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality, and you are that reality, but you donít know it. If you should ever wake up to that reality you would realize that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all."

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#299740 - 11/06/06 01:52 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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What if the concepts of ultimate truth and ultimate reality are themselves the illusion?

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#299741 - 11/06/06 01:54 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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You got it.

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#299742 - 11/06/06 02:23 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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yay!

but is truth a relative or absolute?

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#299743 - 11/06/06 02:27 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Aren't those concepts as well?

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but is truth a relative or absolute?



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#299744 - 11/06/06 02:34 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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This sounds like the conversation with the bomb in 'Dark Satr".
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#299745 - 11/06/06 03:27 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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Relative, of course. I say the glass is half full, you say half empty. It still has the same amount of water and we're both correct. Einstine's theory is still going strong despite being
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#299746 - 11/06/06 03:31 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: stormbringer]
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I'd say...it's neither. That truth might be...experiential and nonconceptual.

"When a practitioner is introduced to naked awareness...in the moment of recognizing the essence of awareness,
the obscuration of dualistic knowledge is absent."

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#299747 - 11/06/06 03:42 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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experiential? existential maybe?
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#299748 - 11/06/06 05:49 PM Re: What is 'Truth'? [Re: harlan]
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Truth Lies.... in the eye of the beholder

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