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#298138 - 12/14/06 11:48 AM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: Stormdragon]
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#298139 - 12/14/06 11:49 AM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: Dereck]
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Dereck, black, not red lol
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#298140 - 12/14/06 01:07 PM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: Stormdragon]
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Sorry to hijack the thread but, why ddi you vegetarians become vegetarians?




Usually the healthier option. Studies have shown that people who eat red meat regularly normally have higher blood pressure, have higher body mass indices, and are more likely to have type 2 diabetes than people who don't. There are many illness linked to eating red meat, including several types of cancer.

And frankly it can take up to three weeks for a portion of red meat to leave your system

And there is nothing nutritionally that you get in red meat you can't get in any other foods.
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#298141 - 12/14/06 05:23 PM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: Prizewriter]
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Fair enough for red meat (although comon... bacon?) but you'll need the Martial Arts Gods to prise me away from my chicken
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#298142 - 12/14/06 08:52 PM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: TimBlack]
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Is chicken as bad as red meat? I'm going to continue eating red meat anyway, but just out of curiosity is chicken better for you?
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#298143 - 12/14/06 10:26 PM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: Prizewriter]
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And there is nothing nutritionally that you get in red meat you can't get in any other foods.


other foods...such as meat? lol. I can not count the amount of articles Ive seen stressing the importance of eating red meat
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#298144 - 12/15/06 01:41 AM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: crablord]
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I understand rec meat and maybe even chicken (but I'll continue eating it thank you) but what about wild fish? Okinawan people have diets very high in fish and are some of the healthiest people on earth. Fish is high in protein, omega 3 fatty acids (an essential nutrient), I think B vitamins and various other nutrients.
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#298145 - 12/15/06 09:25 AM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: crablord]
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I can not count the amount of articles Ive seen stressing the importance of eating red meat




Learn some bigger numbers, perhaps?

I've lost track of the articles stressing the importance of not eating red meat. I have the same reaction to both types of articles: I ignore them and eat what I please.

In related news, there's a new study (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6180753.stm) which apparently shows that vegetarians have a higher IQ. I judge it to be bunk, as details of the research are conspicuously absent from the article, but feel free to have a read.
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#298146 - 12/15/06 09:33 AM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: ThomsonsPier]
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I would tend to agree with that article not even looking at data.

The decision to not eat living beings is usually based upon a philosophical notion. Either that they should not be killed for the sake of food, displeasure at the conditions and quality of life of said living being, or otherwise.

Those are all based upon higher mental processes than "mmm, steak!!" so it stands to reason that people who have made the decision to not eat flesh have a higher intelligence.

BTW, my sister became vegetarian based upon health issues, and stayed a vegetarian based upon the second reason listed above. She loves the taste of steak, chicken, and the whole slew, but is mortified by the horrible conditions in which food-animals are kept.
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#298147 - 12/15/06 09:57 AM Re: Any vegetarians here? [Re: JoelM]
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Those are all based upon higher mental processes than "mmm, steak!!" so it stands to reason that people who have made the decision to not eat flesh have a higher intelligence.




That logic presupposes that all people of 'higher' intelligence have the same moral values or subscribe to the same philosophy. I find it easier to achieve a balanced diet containing the required nutrients by including meat than by omitting it.

The main consideration on my part is that I like meat, base and self-indulgent though that reasoning may be. I do eat free range and organically reared animals, but that's more to with the taste and nutrition than any moral concern.

Mmm, steak.
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