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#296465 - 11/26/06 02:59 PM Re: Kodoryu [Re: Neko456]
CVV Offline

Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 605
Loc: Belgium
I tried to open up the discussion on their forum ( with some questions and remarks regarding sanchin/tensho and use of the sai. As a result, the forum is removed from the website. I guess they lost interest in open forum.

#296466 - 11/26/06 03:27 PM Re: Kodoryu [Re: CVV]
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Registered: 10/25/06
Posts: 28
The closing of the forum on was nothing to do with you asking questions.

Edited by kodobrighton2006 (11/26/06 04:02 PM)

#296467 - 11/27/06 12:57 AM Re: Kodoryu [Re: gaugustcrane]
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Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 142
Loc: San Antone, Tejas

Right gents,
seeing as this is now becoming a question of America versus the low level of karate in Europe and Britain, I think it's time to bow out until some of you actually study what has been put out there by Johnson.
Of course the fact that everything is better in the States was a point I overlooked. Just like when America wins the world baseball series every time. No surprise, as there are no other teams.

Yes, you can have the monopoly on all your kata because you spoke to the Okinawans and they must be right.
You are trying to fit kata into take downs and ground asaults. It's not what your original masters intended to my mind and it doesn't work unless you bastardise the kata as some clubs do.

Just like the Japanese were right about Naihanchin until Zen Shaolin Karate.

And to be honnest, few of you will ever view this open-mindedly, so there is little point discussing this.

Thanks to those who explained increased power for an elbow strike from the Uechi picture. I don't believe it for a minute but if it floats your boat.
And a grab to the lapel afterwards? Was that a joke?
Increased muscle power in the forearm by cocking your wrist, raising your little finger and index? Nice idea. Perhaps they should use that in the ultimate fight to punch or grab someone. Great stuff. Or a Goju punch at slow speed to the groin.
Perhaps then we can use Rokushu to "paint the fence", or "wax on" when cleaning the car. Just before you "stomp" with it, Daniel san.

I say we all get back to our own styles; afterall that's what we each enjoy.
We all think we are right or the other wrong. So, let's agree to disagree.

Cheers, boys.

And not reaching 6th dan until you're 45/50? What a laugh. The Japanese added loads of belts to keep the students training longer. It's politics and marketing. Europe saw that ages ago. Who would want their greatest export quickly perfected by Westerners? Business would not last long.
Like belts for kids. And no room for free thinking.All in line, one direction, one leader, no questions.
I guess some aspects of Okinawan or Japanese culture were not really a good idea to adopt. "Martial" arts, indeed.

You don't grab the lapel afterwards, you grab it just before you strike bringing the opponent into your elbow strike. It could be the sleeve, arm or throat, heck it could be the hair.

I find it interesting that I give you a very real and valid interpretation for that kata movement, that is quite detailed and easy to visualiize yet you can't see it.

Your stance on karate is your teachers stance. It's not based on your research or prior level of experience in real karate, but some superficial understanding of what you think kata and karate is, filled in with hope principles from an intermediate karate guy (at best).

It is all about the Pounds bro or Euros or Dollars or Lira or Pesos or whatever. If I were to train with this guy I bet he would tell me that eventually, especially if he were to find out that I and quite a few others actually KNOW what kata is and the movements mean.

Go elsewhere with that G. Dillman-light wannabe junk.

Edited by shoshinkan (11/27/06 02:44 AM)

#296468 - 11/27/06 04:18 PM Re: Kodoryu [Re: Unsu]
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Now im not a big fan of rules, but this is a public forum so we need to keep it civil, a general reminder to ALL.

Profanity, obscene language, insults, criticism of other arts, styles or individuals, or the impersonation of other individuals should be avoided in any Forum Submission. In addition, you may not upload to, or distribute or otherwise publish through, any Content or Submissions that are libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, threatening, abusive, illegal or otherwise objectionable, or that constitute or would encourage a criminal offense, violate the rights of any party, or otherwise give rise to liability or violate any law.
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#296469 - 11/27/06 06:22 PM Re: Kodoryu [Re: shoshinkan]
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I think you would agree that this thread has more than ran it's course. Time to kill this wounded dog.
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