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#294830 - 10/19/06 06:23 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: shoshinkan]
Unsu Offline

Registered: 09/29/06
Posts: 142
Loc: San Antone, Tejas
Not to laugh aloud but, hahahahah!

That's the same thing that happened with me at two sites with budo in the address. G "the White Possum" is a grumpy, know-it-all, Shito Ryu guy who has no clue and is not looking for one.

He (and sometimes RR) will get you kicked off a forum in half-a-second if they've never heard of you or if you "dare" to question his crotchetiness or lack of knowledge. Oh and his country fried arse is quite ignunt for a supposed Kyoshi level karate-ka.

RR can actually be cool at times. He knows my sensei and knows his brand of Okinawan Kenpo fairly well.

These guys don't need validation from any of us traditional karate poo-butts. They just want to garner favor with the more high profile martial artists, especially the MMA types. G is a jock rider to the nth degree.

He's one the cats that was saying I was some bald guy from W.Va. trying to break a board in this pic they were circulating.

Him and other guys from the SFA (a MMA group in So-Flo) and some wannabe karate dude from Palm Beach, really messed up a good mixture of points and counterpoints over at another forum.

Now that site sucks, they all got pretty much banned and migrated over to another forum.

These arses shouldn't "faze you" at all. They suck at what they do and they are stuck in this whole clique mentality.

They stick up for each other even when they're dead wrong.

There is even a Shorinkan guy there who is oblivious and lets them get away with being argumentative, use cuss words and just deride anyone who is not known to or questions them.

Mods on these sites have to be careful with being unfair like that.

Edited by shoshinkan (10/19/06 07:01 PM)

#294831 - 10/19/06 06:59 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: Unsu]
shoshinkan Offline
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Ok a reminder to all -

Profanity, obscene language, insults, criticism of other arts, styles or individuals, or the impersonation of other individuals should be avoided in any Forum Submission. In addition, you may not upload to, or distribute or otherwise publish through, any Content or Submissions that are libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, threatening, abusive, illegal or otherwise objectionable, or that constitute or would encourage a criminal offense, violate the rights of any party, or otherwise give rise to liability or violate any law.

Lets keep things civil and relevant in this forum please guys and gals.

If you wish to talk 'stronger' then take it to pm.
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#294832 - 10/19/06 07:18 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: Unsu]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Nuff' Respect! lol

#294833 - 10/19/06 07:39 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: Ed_Morris]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
Posts: 6665
Loc: Amherst, MA
Yes, well...thanks for coming to my 'defense' Ed. Very gallant...but I would rather not give that forum any more exposure. I passed through, took the measure of the place...and kept moving. But it did give me pause to think.

Rampant egos, hostility, vulgarity, social climbing, back that real karate? Dressed up in gi and marketed as 'traditional'? I have not heard a single negative story yet about Miyagi, or Gibo, or Higa, or Matayoshi...and I choose to associate with them.

#294834 - 10/19/06 08:21 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: harlan]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia

You don't even do real be quiet.

Um... remind me to tell Patrick McCarthy it ain't real karate when I see him.

#294835 - 10/19/06 08:22 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: eyrie]
harlan Offline
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I'll take it back if you introduce me to him.

#294836 - 10/19/06 08:45 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: harlan]
eyrie Offline
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Registered: 12/28/04
Posts: 3106
Loc: QLD, Australia
You have to get yo a$$ down to Australia first. Patrick lives in Brisbane, but he travels a lot when he's on the seminar circuit.

Unfortunately, as you know, I'm moving from Brisbane in a couple of weeks... so I guess you're not taking it back then? :P

Back on topic....

Edited by eyrie (10/19/06 08:48 PM)

#294837 - 10/19/06 08:56 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: harlan]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
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'real' is a relative term thats over-rated.

I thought about this topic more and imagined if I had the choice between studying with someone that was a complete horror of a human being, but was an amazing technical teacher with incredible skill vs. studying on my own and having nothing to do with him.

...I can say with 100% conviction that I'd study on my own.

The gray area which butterfly mentioned, is according to individual tolerance. and I have a low tolerance for teachers with a bad attitude. makes me feel like I don't want what they have.

an analogy would be seeing a superb chef...who looks and smells like he never showers or grooms. I'll pass on the gourmet meal and opt eating at a place I trust can fill my stomach with a smile.

#294838 - 10/19/06 09:10 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: Ed_Morris]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
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The grey area is why we are in the boat we are in now.

Ronin pointed to something that is very If we are shopping for techniques, divorced from ethics/integrity (yeah...that right's not a dirty word) we are getting into a relationship with only part of our being. It's like isn't halfway, it depends on trust and makes one vulnerable. But only in that environment does one grow as a human being, or experience profound change.

It's a personal choice...what kind of human being one wants to the kind of training, and teachers that we choose to open ourselves to.

#294839 - 10/19/06 09:55 PM Re: Two 'schools' of karate [Re: harlan]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
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Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Hi all!!

Let me try and describe the personalities of two my instructors.

Dale is a hard man all around. He didn't take much from anyone and was very hard on us physically and mentally in class. I've known him since I was 8yrs old and he's always been this way. Sometimes he was almost eager to fight and had some trouble with the law...ok. He is like my second dad and would put his life on the line for me. He has made me a better martial artist in many different ways.

Randy is a good man,a family man and wouldn't want to say a harsh word to anyone. Dale always accused him of being to 'ju' (soft) and it worked both ways. He too is a very good personal friend and would lay his life on the line for me as well. I am a much better martial artist because of him too.

You take them both and you get an idea of where I am as a karate guy.
I think harlan was right on with her first post.I've seen the full spectrum of it.
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