Hehe, hadn't posted here in a long time. Doesn't matter. This is a message to everyone who thinks UFC is badass. UFC FIGHTERS SUCK! they suck BIGTIME.

NO SKILL WHATSOEVER

Silva is the man, he made a mashed potatoe out of Leben and Franklin.

Overall, good luck with your UFC there, you badass MMA'ers.

Well, everyone except Chuck Lidell. Hes the only fighter that actually possesses skill in terms of the UFC.

Ok. Have you considered switching to decaf?



-John

UFC fighters should switch to decaf, start meditating how badly they suck, and then hopefully they can understand that fitness and stamina is not the only thing in a fight, even experience isn't enough.

Thanks for your valuable insight.

Instead of locking this thread like I was going to, I'll let it ride. I do agree that there are some established fighters making a name in the UFC who have not been exposed to the entirely different level of competition in Japan right now. Until they start regularly training and competing outside of their comfort zone, expect to see more dramatic upsets when Pride veterans show up to play.

Look at the current or in fact, ANY ultimate fighter (Ultimate fighter tv show) crew. It just goes to show where they are getting them from. I respect they're position as a fighter to make a living, but they have very little skill....as an actual fighter. They are desperate and foolish due to the fact they think they can fight, they are tough enough to fight, sure, indeed they are, but the qualities they have as an actual skilled fighter are "zero". Anybody can throw sloppy punches and kicks like they do, anyone can go to the ground and clinch without doing anything. Not many actually spend time perfecting they're skill, and UFC is a PERFECT example of what those fighters are. They are poorly skilled fitness freaks who don't mind getting punched in the head and who also like to claim to be the best fighter when in fact they are the opposite. I would like to see poor old tyson knocking the hell out of Franklin, or for that reason, anyone in the UFC wanting to stand with him.

Ok. I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Based on the ridiculous Tyson comment, I see that you really don't know of what you speak. Fighters in the UFC have pretty much proven themselves in skill and heart to get where they are at.

The Ultimate Fighter TV show is a reality show. This is no big secret. Contestants are chosen as much for their personality as they are for their fighting abilities. Predictably, it is often hit and miss with regard to their success in the main event. It does not mean they suck or have zero skill as you so arrogantly oversimplified it.

As the Tyson comment? What are you, 12?

Grow up.

I like all MMA events and believe there is talented fighters in each especially the cream of the crop such as the UFC and Pride. UFC obviously is more main stream and has access to TV rights to show on regular cable, plus has the Ultimate Fighter Series ... but that is just good marketing because remember these are businesses and the idea is to make money and the UFC certainy is. For Pride viewers it is all Pay Per View access only and never live fights, always pre-recorded so there are times I know who won before watching them, which I hate.

Now what I cannot understand is why you would come on here and post how UFC Fighters suck and have no skill ... tell us how much skill you have and how much a great fighter you are?

I agree that Silva is a dam good fighter and he will bring up the level of the Middle Weight and I honestly don't believe Rich Franklin has fought his calibre of a fighter ... but that always happens when you are at the top of the moutain. When you are up there so long and fight less talented fighters, it is hard to continually grow as a fighter. Now with Silva winning the title all those below will work even harder including Rich Franklin and I guarantee somebody will topple Silva off of this mountain as well.

Pride Fighters have won and lost fights in the UFC. UFC Fighters have won and lost fights in Pride. New up and comers who have fought in neither and get their opportunity will work to the levels they need to so that they may make a name for themselves. They will base their training on their own skills and work to their strengths and will train against those with similar traits to be able to combat what ever fighter they have to come up against. Don't think for a second that many Middle Weights are not now training even harder on limiting Silva's agressive clinch and knees ... as will Rich Franklin. I wish Silva the best as he earned it, big time. However I would prefer you not to post if this is the only garbage you are going to post on, not unless you can show me just how "great" you are!

1neikoot:

What is it about the UFC that manages to make you so upset? What is it about that organization that manages to make you come so completely unhinged?

Its one thing to have an opinion about fighters. Its another thing to be maniacle about it.

Calm down and don't trash people that you probably couldn't hang 2 minutes with. At least THEY are fighting and competing. What have YOU done lately.



-John

You just got audited. You owe Fightingarts.com 600 seconds of STUPID TAX

So at what point did our young friend cross into the the stupid zone? Enlighten the boy and recieve points towards fabulous prizes. Remember the goal is not to point out where his opinion is wrong. The goal is to help him see where he got stupid.

I for one would love to hear something... anything... about what training 1neikoot has, that makes him such an expert on the subject.
[EDIT: That was an arrogant statement, and I retract it.]

Zombie,
The goal is not to question his training but to show when and where he got stupid

You just got audited you owe120 seconds to FA.com

You may pay your tax by showing where he went wrong in posting. After your tax is paid your 120 second flood control will be lifted.

Once again if someone can tell me where our young friends went wrong they will recieve points redeemable for fabulous prizes.

Sorry Z

Oh oh, let me play this game!! Let me let me!

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This is a message to everyone who thinks UFC is badass. UFC FIGHTERS SUCK! they suck BIGTIME.

NO SKILL WHATSOEVER

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I think he went wrong there!

-Taison

Fair enough, Oldman. I take it back, with apologies to 1neikoot.

But what struck me funny about his post, is the claim that UFC fighters are nothing more than "poorly skilled fitness freaks" who don't "actually spend time perfecting they're [sic] skill"

I'm tempted to cry "Troll" but that's just my opinion.

1 point Taison.

An addition Zombe pays his tax and settled his account.

Zombie for future reference espeically if you are married, An appology cannot contain the word "but".

Thanks, Oldman! I used to know that rule. Guess I've been single for too long.

Sounds fun, can I play

One point MattJ

Thats Negative one moderator point for Joel for using ass and stupid in the same post.

I will tell you where 1neikoot went wrong. First it was that he conceived a notion in his head that he knew everything there was about the MMA world and the UFC. Second was when he turned on his computer and pulled up FA.com and selected the Grappling/MMA Forum and then selected "post". Thirdly is when he put thoughts to words and then pressing "submit".

Another mistake was letting everybody know that he hadn't posted for a time and that he was freshly back and he started with this type of rambling. And another big mistake was addressing this post to anybody that thought the UFC had badass fighters. Then to compound it he capitalized UFC FIGHTERS SUCK without any basis to back this up. Then to make matters worse he said "suck BIGTIME". Just as a smaller note, "big time" is two words not one!!! And then to say they have "no skills at all" ... again without basis to back this up.

And the grand daddy of all mistakes he made ... I logged in to read it!

Oh oh oh!! This is fun, this is fun. ..

He started speaking without facts to back up his opinion. I mean real solid facts. Comparing 1 person from UFC to whole Pride doesn't work.

Another thing is that he says they lack skill, but we have to remember, they fight for a living. I doubt that anyone who spends 6/7 days a week training can suck at fighting.

For his info, changing your atmosphere can, in the beginning, screw you up. For example, MT boxers have a hard time in the beginning to adjust themselves to the rules of K-1, even to the point where they might look as if they suck. Look at Buakaw now, after doing additional boxing training. Same goes with UFC fighters who fights in Pride, it's just something that needs time.

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Is not a word. It's 2. Bad ass. if you want to link them together you put "-" between them. Bad-ass. (Sorry, but Dereck started it)

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UFC fighters should switch to decaf, start meditating how badly they suck, and then hopefully they can understand that fitness and stamina is not the only thing in a fight, even experience isn't enough.

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If fitness and stamina isn't everything, how are you to last every match? I bet you, not many people can endure a whole round with these guys. Experience is everything. Techniques comes with experience, rhytm and tempo comes with experience. Without experience, you can't beat anyone. Don't even think about beating, without experience you wouldn't be able defend yourself. Learning something is to aqcuire experience.

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actual skilled fighter are "zero". Anybody can throw sloppy punches and kicks like they do, anyone can go to the ground and clinch without doing anything.

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Sloppy? A kick is a kick, a punch is a punch. Using those 2 weapons against another skilled opponent is one of the most difficult thing. 1 mistake means you go to the ground where the game is extremely difficult against a skilled opponent. "Clinch and go to the ground and do nothing". That's called a stale-mate. It's a mind-game, that's the beauty of grappling. 1 wrong executed technique can mean you get tapped. Simple as that. Rather be careful than forceful. Like my sensei said "have time, no need rush".

Oldman, do I get 2 points for this?

Oh, the most stupid thing yet so far. Not deleting the post when Dereck logged on. That's a very bad mistake. You'll regret it forever and ever. It will haunt you till your last breathe.

-Taison out

What the hey, I wouldn't mind some easy points

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Although Tyson is not a good example and is controversial since he hasn't been in a UFC match, you have to agree that nobody could hold they're own in a stand up match with Tyson.

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Skewed argument- requires an athlete to compete in an unfamiliar event. Its like criticising a champion swimmer for not being able to throw a javeline

I want a bonus for pointing out that the above quote stipulates that nobody could hold their own in a stand up match against Tyson. This statement does not infer a scope specific to the UFC, therefore I am compelled to point out Tysons many defeats in the boxing ring, thus proving that there are many who can not only hold their own, but defeat Tyson in a stand up match.

I also want a point for reminding 1neikoot that Tyson has gone on record in interview as admitting he wouldn't fancy his chances in the octagon, and that when considering a 'superfight' with Bob Sapp, he was insisting on it being pure boxing, as he did not want to encounter any kicks.

I hereby forfeit any bonus points I hope to have just earned, for the chance to call 1keinoot a complete Dolt

Thank you for your time.

The biggest offense that I saw was what I pointed out earilier -- talking smack about ANYONE that actually goes and gets into a cage to fight while he wages HIS battle from the security of his bedroom computer (and probably up doing so while mom and dad think you're asleep).

There's a fine line between giving your opinion about UFC fighters and simply bashing them and the entire organization. Speaking your mind while being respectful on the forum is fine with me. I won't have a problem with that as I didn't in this case. But don't be an ass about it or, you WILL be penalized.


-John

thing that made me laugh he says ufc fighters have no skill, then refers to silva as 'the man'
silva is a wild puncher nothing to skillfull about him apart from his groundwork