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#294097 - 10/15/06 09:25 PM Traditional Chinese forms
Victor Smith Offline
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Loc: Derry, NH
Back at it again, this time I focused on more traditional forms (at least many of them are).

The first one is something very special. I have almost complete documentation on each movement and application (from a very old defunct kung fu magazine).

It also makes a case where Chinese forms really are... outstanding!

Kung fu form 5 animals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkvxxuqoenI&mode=related&search=



Shaolin 18 Arhats form
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdijrNuqCWQ
Ma Zhenwu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjHbaV5IHkU



5 animal form - does not seem to load
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GaRqElpBjE


Luohan Gong 13 form
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhA7kXKsp84&mode=related&search=

White Crane Tan Tui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt5nN5i2xMc&mode=related&search=

Lama Pai White Crane Needle In Cotten Set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5vBRUvBKEg&mode=related&search=

Shaolin Lohan Form
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75yYtL8h4BM

Shaolin Pao Chui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85HqfdCU74

san haung paochui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1ai-6J--M&mode=related&search=

Shaolin Tiger Boxing set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XBjOoWR-dc

Shaolin - Shao hong chuan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVJ5q5n8ii0

Shaolin Plum Blossom Praying Mantis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX7xIyrONMs
Bung Bo Kuen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3GkiOWb1V8
Praying Mantis Kung Fu - Brendan Lai Meihua Quan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOvO5L6VjSc&mode=related&search=
Praying Mantis Kung Fu - Brendan Lai Students Ling Bung Bu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG3533Rktzg&mode=related&search=
Gongli-quan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zorsx50Dhss
Lianbu-quan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-xTb73wB7s

Northern Shaolin Cross Battle form.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ILMRctJQA
Shizi-tang Quan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boY5No1LPQo

Tuet Jin Kuen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEnPjSJuofM

Han Chingtang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiyKZBHN958

LungXing WuMa GuiCao Quan - Dragon shape 5 Horse boxing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYHqkwR43g
Yanqing Tui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tdZYkMQWI
Erlu Maifu (2nd Ambush)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFGyGwy38dM
Jin gang ba shi by Mr. zhou jingxuan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPZ9qKk--Us

Chang Tung Sheng taichi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIMZKWOaWPI

Shaolin Kung Fu - Small Red Fist (Xiao Hong Quan)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7576038589452516052&q=shaolin&hl=en


-- and a word from our Japanese temple friends --

SHORINJI KEMPO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9UIkhreNJc&mode=related&search=
SHORINJI KEMPO PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBAJeH6LeeA
Grand Master Shorinji Kenpo demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruEXbc9yCXc&mode=related&search=
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#294098 - 10/15/06 11:21 PM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
yamaguchi Offline
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Registered: 09/02/06
Posts: 32
Loc: mississauga, Ontario, Canada
These videos were amazing, thank you for posting i enjoyed very much watching these.
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#294099 - 10/16/06 04:47 PM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
pathfinder7195 Offline
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Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 336
Loc: T.C Michigan, U.S
Great videos Victor. It's good to watch forms being done properly.

Kevin

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#294100 - 10/16/06 05:12 PM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: pathfinder7195]
ashe_higgs Offline
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Posts: 593
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haven't had time to watch them all yet.

the "chang" taiji clip is just yang style. in fact it's nearly identical to yang jwing mings yang style.

GM Chang is also the teacher of John Wang of texas who can be found at www.johnswang.com


Edited by ashe_higgs (10/16/06 05:15 PM)
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#294101 - 10/17/06 02:36 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: ashe_higgs]
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Registered: 05/20/06
Posts: 961
Loc: New York City
and lets not forget about our Hakka friends
Southern Praying Mantis:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/s...=0#Post15863995
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#294102 - 10/17/06 08:04 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
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Loc: Colorado, USA
The clip of Ma Zhenwu is outstanding. Amazing flexibility!
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#294103 - 10/17/06 10:14 PM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Fisherman]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
And if you really want to get detailed instruction, check out the vcd's sold at http://www.plumpub.com/sales/vcd2/coll_shaolin1.htm
The prices are amazingly cheap, and worth it if your interest is more than just looking.
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#294104 - 10/18/06 07:23 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
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Loc: Colorado, USA
Quote:

And if you really want to get detailed instruction




I have to be misunderstanding you Victor. I know you wouldn't recommend instruction from video, right?
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#294105 - 10/21/06 10:40 PM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Fisherman]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
Hi Fish, There can be instruction from a good videoo as the instructor presents their material, that doesn't imply you can learn the form from the vide. It's what you call instruction. That video I was referring to contains a ton of valuable information and it's presntation is instruction.
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#294106 - 10/21/06 10:42 PM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
Continuing to provide the best finds I can you should be impressed with these.

Chinese Wushu - Misuquan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3i0ss2wQI&mode=related&search=

Ancient Chuo Jiao (1of4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIXeXQMErWc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMxTKAnMZ4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IomX4gESIlM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvxtFrtpxI&mode=related&search=


Chuo Jiao, the style of the Penetrating Foot, is an ancient style with roots in Wen Family Boxing. This was mentioned in General Qi Jiguang's book as one of the most effective systems of his times. The most popular Chuojiao is the branch merged with fanzi (Chuojiao Fanzi) coming from Li Country in Hebei. However, in recent months an old branch of the system (according to its practitioners) came into light. It is called Gu Zhizi (Ancient Zhizi- Ancient Chuojiao) and was passed to the Yin family in Suning County which kept it for centuries. The style shares theory very similar to Xinyi/Xingyi. Li Fuzhen, famous disciple of Che Yizhai, was so impressed by the system that he incorporated its elements into Che Style Xingyiquan and created Mandarin Ducks Kicks routine. This is apparently the first video material about this rare branch ever made public.
(thank you Jarek Szymanski for the description)
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#294107 - 10/22/06 12:00 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
ButterflyPalm Offline
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Registered: 08/26/04
Posts: 2637
Loc: Malaysia
That Chuo Jiao material was indeed interesting. They were training as though the survival of their family was at stake, a throw back to the old days of inter-village conflict, something which my family during my father's time experienced, as my father being the eldest son had to be protected against being kidnapped because to the ancient Chinese, the eldest son was the most important person in the family.

To think that this is only one of perhaps hundreds of closed family systems scattered all over China yet to be discovered and shown to the world.

The only thing I found familiar there was the horse-stance with the heel raised. That was to build up an unbreakable / unsprainable ankle, something you would need to have to do that kind of kicking.

It must be a nightmare having to defend against someone who goes for your shin and ankle all the time, a part of your body farthest away from your defending hands and one hit was all it took to disable you, if your own shin and ankle was not equally conditioned. This accounts for the many one-legged crane stance found in many traditional Chinese Forms as this was the quickest way to get away from an ankle/shin attack. The only other system I know of and trained which goes for the ankle is one branch of Tan Tui.

The other thing was the lack of weight-resistance training, so they were not muscular but had valuable speed, power and conditioning to do damage.

It was cute to see the kids and one lady all dressed up in their finest for the video shoot.
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#294108 - 10/22/06 09:37 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
Fisherman Offline
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Registered: 07/16/03
Posts: 1656
Loc: Colorado, USA
Quote:

There can be instruction from a good videoo as the instructor presents their material, that doesn't imply you can learn the form from the vide.



Thanks Victor.
I think there are videos that you can gain some insight from, things you can build on to pre-existing knowledge. But you certainly can't start from scratch and expect to leard in depth from a video.
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#294109 - 10/23/06 05:19 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Fisherman]
Victor Smith Offline
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Registered: 06/01/00
Posts: 3220
Loc: Derry, NH
Fish,

One would hope you could learn something when the instructor takes 2 hours to present his form, show its detail perfromance, explain how to execute and apply its techniques.

From that video I'm not sure whis is most impressive, the form or the instructor going on to such detail about it.
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#294110 - 12/13/06 12:43 AM Re: Traditional Chinese forms [Re: Victor Smith]
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Registered: 04/15/06
Posts: 593
Loc: phoenix
here's some nice xingyi stuff via tadzio over on the flowah!

Zhao branch
Zhao Chuanghui, 3 days ago. Taigu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOsyqRsVqLA

Mr. Song Guanghua's branch
Student of Liguoliang (Mr. Song Guanghua's student)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sddeD7trkqY

Wu Lixiao's branch - soft
Forgot his name

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IN96lJV6bY

Wu Lixiao branch - 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHl1FDpU5zA
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