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#292788 - 10/11/06 03:09 PM Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist
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After some rather heated kata debates on other threads I have decided to start a kata thread on the JKD forum rather than highjack several threads. I invite you all to give your take on the issue. Thanks. Chen
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#292789 - 10/11/06 04:35 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Chen Zen]
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Thanks,I think I'll start a thread on the ineffectiveness of JKD except in the movies.
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#292790 - 10/11/06 04:45 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: BrianS]
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Sweet, please do. You can even do it on the JKD forum if ya want. LOl
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#292791 - 10/11/06 04:45 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: BrianS]
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low blow.....

karate at it's finest!!!!

osu!!!
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#292792 - 10/11/06 04:49 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: student_of_life]
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Just to clarify a little, the title to the thread was an inside joke. I had suggested to Neko to start a thread on kata as we were taking over another thread. I told him he could name it the Chen Destroys Kata thread. Just a little jab from one friend to another. I want it to be know that I have an immense respect for karate and karateka. i just have issue with some of the ideology is all. Anyways thanks again guys. So far its a pretty hot topic.
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#292793 - 10/11/06 04:51 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Chen Zen]
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Chen,
Just want you to know that there are no hard feelings here,glad to see you can have a sense of humor about things as well.

You should really stop by sometime when you are near Rogers,Ar.
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#292794 - 10/11/06 05:17 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: BrianS]
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Its never personal for me until someone crosses that line. Is Rogers near Ok? I will be moving there in a month or so. Ayways look forward to lettin you guys have it
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#292795 - 10/11/06 05:19 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Chen Zen]
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Whereabouts in ok? Rogers is in Northwest Arkansas.
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#292796 - 10/11/06 07:06 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: student_of_life]
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low blow.....

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#292797 - 10/11/06 08:42 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Chen Zen]
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have you actually trained any TMA? (see other thread )

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#292798 - 10/11/06 10:29 PM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Yes, quit a bit before moving on to muay thai, then jkd.
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#292799 - 10/12/06 04:59 AM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Chen Zen]
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Out of interest Chen,

What TMA did you train and for how long and under who? (rank means very little really, time training is better!).

What kata did you work?
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#292800 - 10/12/06 05:32 AM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: shoshinkan]
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Out of interest Chen,

What TMA did you train and for how long and under who? (rank means very little really, time training is better!).

What kata did you work?




Hi Jim

Not wishing to speak for anybody but the problem sometimes with those type of questions is(apart form the kata question) that if a person trains with and is graded by certain associations and look elsewhere for answers or looks for another association or openly criticises things like training methods etc they can end up being asked to leave or will fail any further gradings. Plus the environment for training can become hostile in a new found club.

I trained and was graded years ago in a Shotokan club which in the end split away from trad karate and they took up with an association which was a mixed bag of so called modern martial artists. Kata was a means of getting a grade
with some rubbish inpractical applications.


But my grade is still registered with them.

Thanks Andy


Edited by ANDY44 (10/12/06 05:37 AM)

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#292801 - 10/12/06 05:40 AM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: Chen Zen]
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Yes, quit a bit before moving on to muay thai, then jkd.




Chen Zen

What do you think the applications for heian shodan are?

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#292802 - 10/12/06 11:30 AM Re: Open Invite to all karateka and traditional artist [Re: ANDY44]
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chen can pm me this info if he wishes to of course, it will stay private.

just trying to ascertain the level/type of kata training he has done.
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