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#289982 - 10/15/06 08:32 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: ANDY44]
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But I still dont understand, what are these "mistakes" being taught to boxers?




If the mistakes are being taugth or not I am speculating

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2471286240673428878&q=boxing




Now I see. In your post it sounded more like a direct statement than specualtion or assumption. Really no one art has got it completely right.
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#289983 - 10/18/06 03:22 AM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: Chen Zen]
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BleedEasy , Sorry mate, but saying “ Boxers punch harder” is huge generalisation.

The human body only works in a certain ways, to punch the hardest way it is possible for that body to do, needs LOTS of practice in a variety of punching styles, accompanied with speed/strength/accuracy training.

What tends to emerge is a particular stylised punch, or if preferred. A mix of karate and boxing.

Punching power also depends on the moment of execution, a boxer is also worrying about getting hit, so his guard often prohibits maximum use of his body mechanics, a karate reverse punch offers nothing in the way of a guard, but does use more potential body mechanics.

Have a search for Peter Consterdine on the net, his punching power is legendary.

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#289984 - 10/23/06 01:21 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: mark]
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One of my instructors explained to me that karate punches come from the center, due to the belief that the midline of the body was where the soul and power of the person abided. Boxers, on the other hand, keep their arms up higher, because the western style of thought places more emphasis on the head and eyes.

I've also been told (by those in Karate) that boxers punch harder. This comes from the fact that boxers "commit" more to each punch. A karate strike can be just as powerful, but most karate strikes focus on setting up another strike. Boxers use combinations too, but are always looking for that KO punch. In my experience, boxing vs karate ends up with the boxer getting hit a lot more than his opponent, but the damage level comes out to about the same.

Technical differences? Boxers protect their face with their deltoids every time they strike. Also, a boxer's fist rotates in the air until the inside knuckles are pointed slightly downward. Like I said, i don't have as much experience with karate, but in the dojo's I have been going to, the punches are thrown lower and the fists don't seem to rotate.

Really not trying to preach here...I know it's one of my first posts. I've been reading these forums for about a year now, and you guys have given me some good tips. Hope this helps.

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#289985 - 10/23/06 02:54 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: leprechaunway]
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One of my instructors explained to me that karate punches come from the center, due to the belief that the midline of the body was where the soul and power of the person abided. Boxers, on the other hand, keep their arms up higher, because the western style of thought places more emphasis on the head and eyes.





The soul and power? Sounds like alot of hoo haw to me. Power comes from how you punch not where it comes from.
Where your hands are in a confrontation depends on alot of things. You should never just keep them here or there,unless we are talking about freesparring.

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I've also been told (by those in Karate) that boxers punch harder. This comes from the fact that boxers "commit" more to each punch. A karate strike can be just as powerful, but most karate strikes focus on setting up another strike. Boxers use combinations too, but are always looking for that KO punch. In my experience, boxing vs karate ends up with the boxer getting hit a lot more than his opponent, but the damage level comes out to about the same.





I'm telling you there is not a good comparison table across the board,it depends on the two people we are comparing.
Joe punches harder than Bob,but Sam punches harder than Joe,doesn't matter who does what..see what i'm saying.
Karate strikes do not mostly set up other srikes,some do,but not mostly and the results are meant to be confrontation enders.

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Technical differences? Boxers protect their face with their deltoids every time they strike. Also, a boxer's fist rotates in the air until the inside knuckles are pointed slightly downward. Like I said, i don't have as much experience with karate, but in the dojo's I have been going to, the punches are thrown lower and the fists don't seem to rotate.





I can tell that your karate experience is indeed limited. Karate punches are meant for specific targets,not necessarily lower ones either.

I really have been missing out on the karate out there I guess.
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