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#289962 - 09/30/06 12:52 AM boxing vs. karate, not a poll.
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in your art, do you really punch from the hip? (doubtful)...if not...is there really that big a difference between karate punches, and boxing punches?

note, obviously karate has a much larger toolbox from which to choose. but from a fist only standpoint (no shuto's or ridgehands) are they really that dissimilar? maybe the biggest difference is a persons point of view, or the method of power generation?
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#289963 - 09/30/06 01:00 AM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: kempo_jujitsu]
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Its a persons training that is the major difference. While a karateka learns many different forms for his hands he also spends time training them. A boxer has to learn much less. So his training is going to yeild results faster.
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#289964 - 09/30/06 01:51 AM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: Chen Zen]
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Chen is right. But here is so much in common with boxing and classical karate though - but maybe it is just mechanics and there is only so many ways we can move.

I'll keep on taking what's good from any martial system.
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#289965 - 09/30/06 10:17 AM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: kempo_jujitsu]
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I see very little difference IF they are trained in a similar manner.
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#289966 - 10/03/06 04:50 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: kempo_jujitsu]
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I think karate has a higher emphasis on precision/quality of hits, while boxing is more quantity and brute force. That's not to say a karate guy wouldn't throw really hard punches or a boxer wouldn't pick his targets, but generally I think the biggest difference between the two is the difference in how they are meant to be applied for maximum effect.
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#289967 - 10/03/06 04:58 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: TheFinalOption]
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Boxers punch harder.

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#289968 - 10/03/06 05:09 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: BleedEasy]
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Quote:

Boxers punch harder.




I hope you were just saying that to reiterate what I said, and not saying that to try to say that power is the only difference between karate and boxing punches.
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#289969 - 10/03/06 07:30 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: TheFinalOption]
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my 2 cents....

alot of traditional karate schools pratice almost exclusivly straight punches(goju and isshin and kyukoshin guys please resist from the urge to hit me with a hook??) well i did in my old shotokan dojo, it wasn't till after i got my own heavy bag and asked a sensei we had in for a seminar about "boxing" style punches and why we don't train them, so he showed me how and now i do pratice them on my own time.

he told m that one of the main reasons why karate ka pratice many more straight punches then round punches was because straight punches are a very fine way for beginers to learn proper body dynamics, beginers like the school children who were some of the first to learn a "shotokan" like style of karate, so in a way pnches were kept "simple" for the sake of the children.

on the other hand, ask any expirenced karate ka, and he will tell you he most likely pratices all kinds of punches.

at least thats my expirence, theres only realy one most efficient way for the body to generate power, all the style differences are, in moy opnion just people placing focus on certin aspects of it, realy no differnece if you ask this brown belt.
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#289970 - 10/03/06 08:04 PM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: student_of_life]
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http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5477406747633866773&q=shotokan

the free sparing near then end looks fine to me in terms of there punching power.

and on a side note about 1 third the way through it shows hidetaka nishiyama along side the boxer guy, there punching technique has more similarities then differences i think, just a tid bit more, nishiyama is the leader of my stlye of shotokan, woot!!!vide of the guy in his yonger years!!
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#289971 - 10/15/06 08:30 AM Re: boxing vs. karate, not a poll. [Re: kempo_jujitsu]
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Quote:

...is there really that big a difference between karate punches, and boxing punches?






is there really that big a difference between karate punches, and boxing punches?

The question is getting harder and harder to answer the more I look at some present day boxers/strikers.The basic punching skills are learnt then adjusted for better or worse.
How are pro boxers getting knocked out?
How are MMAís getting knocked out?
How are karate ka getting hit in the face?
Throwing a punch say a straight right then allowing the hand to drop down and leaving themselves wide open to being countered = knock out.
|Doing the same with a jab.
Punching with their chins in the air.
Leading with their faces.
Having the wrong guard when being attacked by a flurry of punches..
I could go on.



Then the question of a karate punch. What is a typical karate punch?
Reverse punch ? Would seem that punch is the most known karate punch because of if its constant use in competiton . The punch from which karate style?(hate that word)Seems like some recent karate styles have adopted their own methods of punching
Power generation
From my seemingly limited experience it would depend on the punch being thrown as to the power generation.

Then the arguments about karate versus boxing ?

So my anwer to your question at this moment in time is I donít know if there is a big difference between karate and boxing punches. Which punch by which boxer or karate ka?

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