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#289701 - 10/03/06 02:36 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: PaulHart]
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No, but to be able to term it Karate, I feel it should have it's origins in the Ryukyu Islands. You could call it H2H, kick Boxing, whatever. There is an art here called Defendo that is really a decent way of combat, does that make it Karate? I do not think it does. Kind of like trying to get a Buck Knife from Gerber, it cant be done, but that doesn't mean the Gerber blades are in any way bad.




From the ryukyu islands,okie dokie. I'm from Arkansas,does that count?

Some people call tkd karate,sadly.

I think when people get too caught up on how pure their lineage is the other aspects of their training suffer. Doesn't matter to me what you call yours,so it shouldnt' matter what I call mine.
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#289702 - 10/03/06 03:08 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: BrianS]
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there are only 2 types of Karate: one that is, and one that isn't.

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#289703 - 10/03/06 04:02 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: Ed_Morris]
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This is an interesting thread and I must confess that I am a little equivocal about the whole thing. I have pounced on other folk who have laid claim to ambiguous heritages in the hopes of steeping themselves in the waters of historcal styles to tie some form of authenticity to what they do. This is becuase it is misleading. This is despite technical merit of the school...good, bad, mediocre...I was after truth.

On the other hand, general labels or categorical headings --I have no problems with them. Is it a Kleenex or another brand of facial tissue? Is it a Band-Aid or an adhesive, cut protector? By this, I mean is Karate a generic term with apparent similarities in technical reportoire? Or is it a specific title for a particular art that needs a lot of qualification to make it THE art?

By one definition, you would have any striking art, despite utility or its new emergence in the martial arts world and only owing it's heritage to Okinawa, under the same umbrella of Karate. However, something promoted elsewhere, but birthed from the same antecedent art, labeled not karate. And perhaps the art studied elsewhere might be closer in look and feel than the newer art that is being promoted.

For me, it matters little what it is called, just that your honest about its heritage and you train well.

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#289704 - 10/03/06 04:09 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I agree with Paul and Brian Karate should have a look and feel its should have it roots from Okinawa. But because it doesn't or is not called Karate doesn't make it less effective. I believe its time in training and belife in a system, alone with individual training effort that makes a fighter not what its called.

Let me tell you it still hurts if they hit you.
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#289705 - 10/11/06 01:37 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: Neko456]
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The style my instructor calls "American Karate" is a mixture of Traditional, Classical, and Sport. We do have competition classes (separate from the other classes), however we do point spar in class rarely. Most of the time it's "chain sparring", which is what my instructor calls our controlled free sparring.
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#289706 - 10/12/06 01:52 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: steelwater]
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There are only 2 styles of karate;

Good Karate

Bad Karate

God that was easy.
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#289707 - 10/12/06 02:37 PM Re: Types of Karate [Re: JohnL]
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There are only 2 styles of karate;

Good Karate

Bad Karate

God that was easy.





Great answer, JohnL. That reminds me of a quote by Joe Lewis, when asked what rank he was, back in the 1960's. He said (paraphrasing) "Look, there are two kinds of black belts. Good ones and bad ones. I'm a good one."
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#289708 - 10/13/06 10:09 AM Re: Types of Karate [Re: JohnL]
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I'd agree but disagree, yes I agree there are 2 types but I would say it would be

* good karateka
* bad karateka

there is no bad karate

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