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#287947 - 09/25/06 01:18 PM Re: On fighting. [Re: MRKARATE]
Neko456 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
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Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
As it was mentioned gaining experince and basic skills take time regular tournament can help here, but rules changes the encounter. I'd enroll in a full contact school that stressed that kind of sparring if I wanted to do full contact sparring. Your skills and technique will be adjusted for that type training and competition.

So no you don't learn more outside the dojo rather then in the dojo, until you learn something while training inside the dojo. Sparring unfamilar systems and methods outside or inside the dojo helps gain further expereince. But its safer inside the dojo where some kind control is mandatory.

Sparring outside the dojo is a risk and should only happen when you have confidence in your partners and all know what level you all want to train at. Getting knocked out by superior fighters early in your training isn't going to teach you anything, except make you punch/fight shy!!! Go slow and learn well that will help/save you, this is done inside a dojo under a good Sensei 1st.

Just my 2 cent.

Edited by Neko456 (09/25/06 01:23 PM)

#287948 - 09/25/06 08:16 PM Re: On fighting. [Re: Neko456]
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Registered: 09/04/06
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Loc: Ohio
for me tournament fighting did not make me a better fighter, but for some people maybe it will. I personally do not like tournaments. in my first 10 years of karate-do training our dojo did not do tournaments. the best jiyu kumite i was involved in was when i would visit different karate schools or karate camp twice a year. my first tournament was when i trained in shorin-ryu and the tournament was the all open VA. tournament. no pads,leg sweeps and head shots were allowed. i placed 2nd in the blackbelt division and lost first place to an experienced tournament fighter that trained in kyokushinkai. even though my techniques were clean and controlled i lost because not all judges could see my points. needless to say i got a lot of half points. not bad for my very first tournament and to spar against seasoned fighters. sorry for the ramble or story. we are molded by hard we train and those that push us past our limits. fighting spirit comes from the heart not by training for points. i did enjoy the tournaments but it did not make me a better fighter.

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#287949 - 10/16/06 11:51 PM Re: On fighting. [Re: MRKARATE]
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Registered: 09/02/06
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Loc: mississauga, Ontario, Canada
I believe that sparring in tournaments can be useful experience, but i do not believe it is necissary if you have a good dojo then you will learn everything you need to know in the dojo and do not need to go out and compete, so to me it just really matters whether or not you like competing, for me i dont compete i used to and i would actually do pretty good but for me i didnt find any value in it i found all the real value from what i was learning at the dojo but that just varies from person to person......this is just my opinion
"Take the lesson and throw away the experience" -Hanshi Wallace Platt

#287950 - 10/17/06 12:11 AM Re: On fighting. [Re: MRKARATE]
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well, lets many hours/weeks/months of training do you do prior to a 30 minute competition?

I'd take the dojo/gym experience.

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