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#285852 - 12/21/06 11:01 AM Re: Anyone know anything about Shaolin Do? [Re: Jay_Sea_JC]
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Registered: 07/16/03
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Loc: Colorado, USA

Also every week my master teaches applications for the form, so i don't know where everyone is getting that they don't teach you applicatoin.

Maybe I missed it all together? When I was attending the CSC I was not shown nearly the amount of application as I have seen in other places. I would say their primary area of focus from what I experienced is on forms and fitness and not in learning how to genuinely apply the technique and fighting principle on the forms. You do learn the occasional application when doing forms work. You also learn applicaton when doing 1 step sparring routines, and chin na routines. Having a frame of reference to compare with, I would say that their application is trained in a manner wherein it is not as effective as some other arts.
Let me make something PERFECTLY CLEAR. The CSC IS NOT a bad place. I think it is a good place to go if it is what you are looking for in MA. I simply found intetrests in other arts that have different areas of focus. I have said it before and I'll say it again. I would not be where I am today if it wasn't fo my experiences there at the CSC. I am entirely greatful for those experiences and what I learned there. They put me on the path of to where I am today.


I am also glad that there is a 900+ resivoire of forms, more application, and though it may be much, I would rather be over prepared than under prepared.

I don't think that many form means that many applications. I can find that many applications in 64 forms easily. And I still think that is a few too many forms for my taste sometimes. Look, I dig forms, I like them as a tool to train when I am on my own, but forms do not directly teach application. 900+ forms is going to be a amazing feat in and of itself to remember. In order to retain that ammount and kind of material you have to practice it at least once in a while. My point is, you are doing and learning forms so much that there is minimal time to learn and train application.

(I am having a reflective moment, and I don't seem to recall many people ever asking "how does this work?")


I also feel that it is what the student makes of the art and the teachers that develops a great fighter and not the art itself.

I would agree with that statement. I would add that the methods in which the art is trained also play a major if not predominant factor in making a great fighter.


I acknowledge that the training there may not be other people's cup of tea, but to me its the best place "I" could possibly be in. Thank you for hearing me out and I hope this helps.

That is a repectable acknowledgement. Thanks for posting.
Chris Haynes

#285853 - 12/31/06 05:25 PM Re: Anyone know anything about Shaolin Do? [Re: solaron]
BaguaMonk Offline

Registered: 12/18/04
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Yeah, I know a thing or two about Shaolin Do.

Enough to stay away from.

It is a McDojo, which lures novices into its huge theories and interesting interpretation of the shaolin/internal arts. When I was a teenager,I went to a McDojo very similar, if not identical.
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