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#282945 - 09/26/06 12:59 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Tom2199]
Eveal Offline
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Registered: 10/15/04
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taison ur kidding urself if u think thai boxers to not focus on punching look at ramon dekker and how fast paced he is, i dont know where you have been training but here in the uk our champs are as good as the dutch and thais.




Actually, your mistaking. It comes down to the training but out of most MT matches I have seen the MT practitioner's hands seem to be abit lacking. He is clearly stating that AKB focus abit more on the hand techniques. It depends on the fighter's trainers as to what he wants IMO.

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#282946 - 09/28/06 08:14 AM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Eveal]
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the only fighters that lack hands is the thais, imo
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#282947 - 09/28/06 11:15 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Tom2199]
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I know where Taison is coming from. The way it USED to be (perhaps it's changing a bit now) was that Thai boxers really looked at punching skill as secondary to everything else. Their structure (traditional Thai boxing) really prohibited good boxing skill.

Now it seems as if they are using more of a classic boxing structure (some are anyway). That isn't how it always was however.

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#282948 - 09/29/06 02:03 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Tom2199]
Taison Offline
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the only fighters that lack hands is the thais, imo


Be careful. I don't like that tone and I definitely don't allow such comments.

Not even once did I say that Brittish boxers doesn't stand up to Dutch or Thais, so keep that out of the subject.

Another note. I'm talking about the system. The way you're trained is another factor, but if we stick to the system as taught by the standard curriculum, no MT does not emphasize hands as much as AKB.

Here's the philosophy of the two arts. MT you punch, so that you may create enough space to be able to kick. In AKB you punch when you are unable to kick which is close range.

Fast paced. MT is not as fast paced as AKB. The footwork in AKB is more involving and active. The footwork in MT is slower.

AKB there's a lot more shuffling of the feets during footwork, and more jump to the steps in order to be able to execute moves such as spinning back kicks, etc.

Having a quick footwork has nothing to do with the pace of the fight. MT is very offensive but very straight forward. AKB is also offensive but they have tricks and mindplays at their arsenal.

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#282949 - 09/29/06 04:22 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Tom2199]
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the only fighters that lack hands is the thais, imo




But...... then how do they tie their shoelaces?!
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#282950 - 09/29/06 04:48 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Tom2199]
Crash Offline
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Taison is a real Thai boxer who lives in Thailand, so how about showing some respect? I think he knows what hes talking about.
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#282951 - 09/29/06 05:36 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Cord]
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Registered: 08/12/06
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<<But...... then how do they tie their shoelaces?! >>

And open Durian fruit
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#282952 - 10/09/06 09:10 AM Re: american kickboxing [Re: pedro]
kyokushinkai Offline
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Registered: 05/27/05
Posts: 327
Loc: Prince Edward Island , Canada
when you say they don't use there hands very much do you mean like TKD not using hands or just that there is a lot more emphasis on Kicking, because I thought I read somewhere that a lot of the time in Muay Thai fighters will spar without using there legs, or elbows.
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#282953 - 10/09/06 04:54 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: kyokushinkai]
Ayub Offline
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Registered: 11/26/04
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Well TKD people do use their hands, a little. They strongly emphasise the use of kicks in training and sparring.

I belive he saying that LESS emphasis is given to hand techniques than in AKB, and MORE is given to kicking (especially) and also elbowing and kneeing.
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#282954 - 10/09/06 05:01 PM Re: american kickboxing [Re: Crash]
Tom2199 Offline
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Registered: 04/18/04
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Loc: England
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Taison is a real Thai boxer who lives in Thailand, so how about showing some respect? I think he knows what hes talking about.




im a real thai boxer, so now u are disrespecting me

i think we have all been to thailand im not disrespecting him im just point out that maybe he is being a little outdated in his info. Maybe this is because he lives in thailand, alot westerners focus largly on boxing skill, some dont- most do. Fact sorry

if taison doesnt belive in his art anymore then maybe he isnt a 'thai boxer' anymore.
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