There seems to be a deafening silence from Silky...

Hey kid, don't go away. Just open your eyes & ears before you open your mouth.

Mike,

"Sheesh, how many times do we have to say that!!!"

Probably a few more times yet.

gee I didnt even realize he said TMA sucks....

yea you tell em Mike!!

We still haven't got past the style vs style or traditional vs modern crap.

The martial arts are vast, you can train for self defense, spirituality, a sport, learn history and culture or other things. The UFC was first created to see how styles would match up against each other and eventually fighters figured out that being well rounded was the way to win but eventually MMA sort of became a style in it self. They are almost still one style, they don't train weapons etc but I won't get into that.

Still Kung fu people, Karate, Hapkido etc didn't do well in the begining of MMA, and today they don't really have a place in MMA, why? The common excuse is that real masters would not lower themselves to compete in such events, well yeah exactly! If you were a Master of what ever traditional MA, why would you? Mabey it's just me but when I picture a true martial arts master I think of someone fairly old, with students who feel priveliged to learn from them because mabey they can wipe out attackers with no wasted energy or kill bulls with a single punch etc. If you had this kind of power and had a world of respect already why would you Jump in a cage or ring and fight? It would be like lowering yourself or something. Real masters of traditional MA just wouldn't really have an interest, and they respect other masters as well so you just don't see them fight in real life.

I don't know, I'm not very good at explaining this type of thing really. Mabey someone will have better insight.

Hi There

Interesting. Cant realy answer that one.
MMA/UFC is good. What I do(trad) I find good.
Although this modern versus trad verses style etc thing I find some what boring. Most techniques in MMA/UFC are found in trad martial arts. So I think i would much rather discuss technique counter technique etc.
Training for speed /power regard less of which style uses the technique being discussed.

I think Bruce Lee amongst others use to critise other martial arts. Then he would be seen using a technique common to most martial arts.

Ego thing I think

Good grief, another TMA/MMA debate- yippee!

putting on a Gi and kiai'ing up and down a hall, or shaving your head, getting tattoos and training in a cage, or anywhere inbetween - none of these make an effective fighter. They are tools that a fighter can use if learned properly, but the 'fighter' bit is a mindset that usually exists long before any form of unarmed training takes place.

crossbow or long bow? neither if the person holding them cant aim for sh1t, and shows no natural aptitude.

want to be teh de4dly fye-tor? get your game on in whatever style you have available, and stop flogging dead horses.

an effective fighter. They are tools that a fighter can use if learned properly, but the 'fighter' bit is a mindset that usually exists long before any form of unarmed training takes place.

crossbow or long bow? neither if the person holding them cant aim for sh1t, and shows no natural aptitude.

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Maybe why I have problems communicating with some types.

You have gone very quite for some reason?