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#281057 - 08/23/06 02:35 PM not impressed
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=2wOnMgxeSBw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SxJDejeXJeI

I'm sorry, but 90% of this is just plain pathetic and completely unrealistic. It just doesn't work htis way. Please someone tell me this kind of thing is just unusually bad. The second video is much better and some of it is actually very good, but most of this is really not anything special. It's very static on the part of the attacker in most cases and is just to stiff and routined.
Now dont get me wrong, i love krav maga, but htis stuff just isn't much.


Edited by Stormdragon (08/23/06 02:35 PM)
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#281058 - 08/23/06 03:02 PM Re: not impressed [Re: Stormdragon]
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That first vid was a "demo".

What would you do differently in the attacks on the first vid?


Edited by MrMoyer (08/23/06 03:04 PM)

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#281059 - 08/23/06 03:14 PM Re: not impressed [Re: JasonM]
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First off, the attackers should put up at least SOME resistence, and if krav maag is effective the techniques will still work very well, I mean, they just let the defender pull off the techniques perfectly, next there's way too many flashy high kicks and spin kicks, and then, on the knife attackes, well, I think oyu know as well as I do that 99% of guys wont atatck that way with a knife, with one wide open attack, that's slow like that.
It was a crappy demonstration even among those standards.
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#281060 - 08/23/06 03:43 PM Re: not impressed [Re: Stormdragon]
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Well, in all demos the idea is to show the technigue in it's simpliest form. Ya have to get the basics down before moving into the "realistic" attacks. If I was new and thrown into a KM class and someone came swining wildly at me with a knife, it might freak me out. The technique has to be taught first and then fine tuned and applied to the more realistic attacks.
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#281061 - 08/23/06 03:48 PM Re: not impressed [Re: JasonM]
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I would think they'd demo the techniques with high level practitioners who can pull of the moves in a realistic scenario.
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#281062 - 08/31/06 09:00 AM Re: not impressed [Re: Stormdragon]
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In a traditional demo that would more than likely be the case.

It looks to me like they are doing a demo for either future students, or new students. In which case I would just show some applications for the techniques they are doing.
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#281063 - 08/31/06 03:22 PM Re: not impressed [Re: JABB]
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In any case I just dnt htink it's a very high quality demo IMO.
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#281064 - 10/08/06 08:51 PM Re: not impressed [Re: Stormdragon]
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I was totally impressed to see the guy at the end kick the smaller girl off stage on the first Vid.

Looked like garbage to me. The gun defenses was garbage. The multiple, high kicking was trash too. Amzing what gets passed off as "Realistic self defense"
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#281065 - 10/08/06 09:19 PM Re: not impressed [Re: Chen Zen]
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that kind of thing will get people killed someday. GM. IMI Licthenfeld would turn over in his grave if he saw that.
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#281066 - 01/25/07 06:17 PM Re: not impressed [Re: Stormdragon]
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I didn't like the videos.
Check this out instead kapap video
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